Admin Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 however, Barry's article also reference a previous MLB owner being interested in the franchise if the kushner deal falls apart. Hmm who could that be? Ted Turner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokersgoon Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Hmm who could that be? Ted Turner? dudes net worth is 2.2 billion.. shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 Oh no, does Huizenga want back in maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fauowls44 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Tom Hicks or Lew Wolff are the 2 most recent former owners of MLB teams. Although I suppose this person could have been a minority owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokersgoon Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Oh no, does Huizenga want back in maybe? hes not in the greatest of health.. dude has been in hiding for awhile tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 U$A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiamiNative0722 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I can't stand Loria even more now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Man Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I literally chuckled out loud. Don't have anything else to add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 however, Barry's article also reference a previous MLB owner being interested in the franchise if the kushner deal falls apart. Probably not Mike Illitch I assume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 looks like the deal is over if Loria takes the ambassador job.. they want to avoid the appearance of quid pro quo. I don't get it. What's the problem? If Loria is leaving here why can't he go be ambassador or do whatever else he wants next? I would have thought being ambassador was a bigger problem or conflict if he was staying as the owner here. Not sure how these things are related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrchainsaw Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Wait, this is for real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 Wait, this is for real? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major-Minor Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I don't get it. What's the problem? If Loria is leaving here why can't he go be ambassador or do whatever else he wants next? I would have thought being ambassador was a bigger problem or conflict if he was staying as the owner here. Not sure how these things are related. The perception will be that Loria sold the team to get the Ambassador position. And if the DeVos appointment is any indication...this is probably what is happening. Loria gunna Loria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 The perception will be that Loria sold the team to get the Ambassador position. While I don't think that's true, who cares if it is? Why would that be a problem? I must be missing something here because how is that a bad thing? A business owner can sell his business for whatever reason. As long as Loria goes, he goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Still nobody has even answered as to what the ambassador to France even does. Sounds like a fake position with no real duties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 Still nobody has even answered as to what the ambassador to France even does. Sounds like a fake position with no real duties. In the strictest sense, U.S. ambassadors represent the President of the United States in an official capacity in foreign nations and communities. They are charged with protecting and promoting national interests, maintaining diplomacy, organizing visits, welcoming visitors, and supporting resolutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 In the strictest sense, U.S. ambassadors represent the President of the United States in an official capacity in foreign nations and communities. They are charged with protecting and promoting national interests, maintaining diplomacy, organizing visits, welcoming visitors, and supporting resolutions. I feel like you just copied that from somewhere but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major-Minor Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 While I don't think that's true, who cares if it is? Why would that be a problem? I must be missing something here because how is that a bad thing? A business owner can sell his business for whatever reason. As long as Loria goes, he goes. You don't want some one to be able to leverage political gains against altruism in business dealings. As a brand, MLB would want to protect the integrity of its company. As a nation, we shouldn't be selling postions to the highest bidder. Here is why that could be an issue: Take for example your job. Imagine you were up for a promotion, one you might have spent your career working towards. However, an unqualified new hire, or outside hire, offered your boss 10 grand for the job. Is that fair? Better yet...is that ethical? As far as legality, it is called "quid pro quo". It goes along the same vein as insider trading (see Martha Stewart). You don't want cronyism or secret bribes mucking up your political system. Have you seen "Shawshank Redemption?" The warden is accepting payoffs so he doesn't use his inmates to undercut local businesses. The assumption with Loria is that he would sell or cut a more favorable deal to be an Ambassador. Overtime: This is why we want transparency in politics, why we need campaign finance reform, and why lobbyists are bad. Ironically, the suggestion of these types of improprieties is also what dismantled Unions in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 What our former owner doing after he sold the team was what I most less care about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entendu Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 The perception will be that Loria sold the team to get the Ambassador position. And if the DeVos appointment is any indication...this is probably what is happening. Loria gunna Loria. If this is what is happening, why are the Kushners backing out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyggyMarlin Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Still nobody has even answered as to what the ambassador to France even does. Sounds like a fake position with no real duties. sounds like fake news or alternative facts to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 You don't want some one to be able to leverage political gains against altruism in business dealings. As a brand, MLB would want to protect the integrity of its company. As a nation, we shouldn't be selling postions to the highest bidder. Here is why that could be an issue: Take for example your job. Imagine you were up for a promotion, one you might have spent your career working towards. However, an unqualified new hire, or outside hire, offered your boss 10 grand for the job. Is that fair? Better yet...is that ethical? As far as legality, it is called "quid pro quo". It goes along the same vein as insider trading (see Martha Stewart). You don't want cronyism or secret bribes mucking up your political system. Have you seen "Shawshank Redemption?" The warden is accepting payoffs so he doesn't use his inmates to undercut local businesses. The assumption with Loria is that he would sell or cut a more favorable deal to be an Ambassador. Overtime: This is why we want transparency in politics, why we need campaign finance reform, and why lobbyists are bad. Ironically, the suggestion of these types of improprieties is also what dismantled Unions in the US. Well this is well explained. Thanks. Just for clarity, this is because the Marlins sale would be to the Kushner family right? Because if Loria sold the Marlins to someone else and then still got the ambassador position then it'd be ok right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishMan1997 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I don't want the Kushners to buy the team. His anti gun stances along with the way he looks; pass. I may be in the minority but hopefully the "talk" of selling drives up the price and gets Loria to sell the Marlins to an actual good ownership candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major-Minor Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Well this is well explained. Thanks. Just for clarity, this is because the Marlins sale would be to the Kushner family right? Because if Loria sold the Marlins to someone else and then still got the ambassador position then it'd be ok right? Precisely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major-Minor Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 What our former owner doing after he sold the team was what I most less care about. Unfortunately, that sentiment speaks volumes. Whether, you are an United States citizen, or not. You should care. While I hate how the Marlins are run, I have my limits on the lengths I would go to replace the ownership. I wouldn't kill or steal from someone to get my way. I have scruples. At the end of the day if Loria is able to leverage the sale of the team for political gain...that is dangerous and should be prevented. Look at this way, what about the purchaser of the team...Would you want a war criminal to purchase the team? Or someone who in-turn dismantles the team? Let's not forget this is entertainment. At the end of the day, The Marlins are the distraction from life and not life itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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