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I think Samson is the least of the Marlins organizational problems.  I think he is a great businessman, knows how to work with the political leaders (i.e. beat them up) and I'm not convinced that tv deal is really his fault, though I cant remember, nor really care.  Anyone care to go more in depth on that?  I sense that was more of a Loria issue or a table it until after the ownership change type of deal.

 

The fans dont show up because of decisions made by Loria, the fans dont show up because Mike Hill is a failure at his job.

 

If they have to keep one member of the front office in the new ownership, Samson would be the only one that seems competent enough to stay.

 

Obviously from these discussions a lot of us see the negative in Samson and a lot of us see the positive in Samson.  Weight of the balance isn't important at the moment.  My guess is Samson stays on at least for the moment.  He is in a position where he knows the workings of the operation, and I don't believe anyone can just slip into the role seamlessly. And as some has pointed out this position isn't in every team so however the roles have been split/meshed will be different elsewhere.  

 

Now a new owner comes in, and I guess we could look at the last owner turnover in other teams and see what has happened.  But right now as I write this my opinion is Samson will stay on.  How long is the question.  If it is Mas he has a relationship with Samson, and it may be good or bad.  Don't know, and I don't know if anyone can claim that knowledge in here.  Yet he is a businessman.  So although there are many want to see him out the door with Loria, it's my opinion it isn't going to happen at least until the new owner/staff is solid/solidified.

 

Then we may be better able to know how good Samson is/was.

 

 

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Obviously from these discussions a lot of us see the negative in Samson and a lot of us see the positive in Samson.  Weight of the balance isn't important at the moment.  My guess is Samson stays on at least for the moment.  He is in a position where he knows the workings of the operation, and I don't believe anyone can just slip into the role seamlessly. And as some has pointed out this position isn't in every team so however the roles have been split/meshed will be different elsewhere.  

 

Now a new owner comes in, and I guess we could look at the last owner turnover in other teams and see what has happened.  But right now as I write this my opinion is Samson will stay on.  How long is the question.  If it is Mas he has a relationship with Samson, and it may be good or bad.  Don't know, and I don't know if anyone can claim that knowledge in here.  Yet he is a businessman.  So although there are many want to see him out the door with Loria, it's my opinion it isn't going to happen at least until the new owner/staff is solid/solidified.

 

Then we may be better able to know how good Samson is/was.

 

I agree w you , well stated and I'm fine with a wait and see approach with new ownership.Maybe he is ok. Just the stigma w him and Loria is a bad taste overall ( good thing I have my soda machine to get a drink from) it's just intriguing to think about fresh start with all new regime. That's all, If he stays on that's fine. I am thankful he got stadium done. It was needed for sure. As a fan all I want to see is success of franchise in every aspect of organization. Hopefully those days are on the horizon sooner than later. 

 

 

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I think Samson is the least of the Marlins organizational problems.  I think he is a great businessman, knows how to work with the political leaders (i.e. beat them up) and I'm not convinced that tv deal is really his fault, though I cant remember, nor really care.  Anyone care to go more in depth on that?  I sense that was more of a Loria issue or a table it until after the ownership change type of deal.

 

The fans dont show up because of decisions made by Loria, the fans dont show up because Mike Hill is a failure at his job.

 

If they have to keep one member of the front office in the new ownership, Samson would be the only one that seems competent enough to stay.

 

People keep saying he's a great businessman or competent at his job, but I have trouble fathoming that and don't see anything to back that up. He's in charge of financial operations of the organization, but it's $400 million in debt and according to reports on pace to lose another $70-80 million this season.

 

How does that make him a great businessman? 

 

 

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People keep saying he's a great businessman or competent at his job, but I have trouble fathoming that and don't see anything to back that up. He's in charge of financial operations of the organization, but it's $400 million in debt and according to reports on pace to lose another $70-80 million this season.

 

How does that make him a great businessman? 

 

You fail to account for the lunacy of the owner of the team.  That and I dont buy that they are losing that much, unless you factor in the money Loria pays himself.

 

 

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With the sale going on, those financials were apparently confirmed. They really are losing a lot.

 

Like I said, Loria must be the most inept owner in all of sports as they literally make zero money outside of revenue sharing.  Due mostly to Jeff Loria himself.

 

Was it confirmed that Loria is still paying his management company a consulting fee?

 

 

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It will be very sad if the Marlins don't sell high on guys having career years, especially a Justin Bour.  He's a nice guy and all, but he's already almost 30 and I don't think someone with his body type is gonna hold up in the National League.  He needs to go to the American Leage and be a DH.   Teams are handing away prospects like candy this year and its time to cash in.  Tyler Moore seems like a capable backup to fill in anyhow.  Everyone keeps  saying that this team has a good core of players but this same core has actually been around together for quite some time now - an eternity for Marlins standards - and haven't even accomplished a winning season.  Spending money on starting pitchers is the worst possible thing the Marlins can do because they will never sign the top free agents and get stuck with people like Chen for terrible contracts.

 

 

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Not necessary,even with a 1-2-3 save today he's still a below average closer,you should know it…

 

He's a below average closer???? He's only blown two games this season and has saved like 90 out of 100+ games in his career. Even as off as he was last night he was only one strike away from getting the save. 

 

 

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Ok,but that would be long long seasons and everybody here would blame the owner and the GM after every ugly loss…

 

You complain that rebuilding seasons would be long long seasons with ugly losses where everyone would blame the owner and GM.... But that's pretty much been every season here since 2003 with the exception of 2009! EVERY YEAR is a long crappy season here with ugly losses and blame on the front office! 

 

 

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I saw this discussion in an article.  And the belief that Stanton may be willing to waive the clause.  But (1) he just paid mega bucks for a home which he may not want to live part time in, (2) there is like $295M left on his contract and the way other teams may take a slice (not the WHOLE thing) is for the "trade" be sweetened by one or more other players PLUS $$$.  Now if it is true they are losing $70M this year, would it be wise to lose player(s) PLUS $$$.  And you now what $$$ means right at a restaurant, yes??

 

 

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He's a below average closer???? He's only blown two games this season and has saved like 90 out of 100+ games in his career. Even as off as he was last night he was only one strike away from getting the save. 

 

Yea,only two blown save in the record,but how many games that were "one ball or one hit" away from blown the lead ?

 

 

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Kyle Sielaff ✔ @Kyle_Sielaff

 

Coming up at 6:40 along the @MarlinsRadio Network, part 1 of my conversation with @Marlins starter @COGrady38. First pitch vs. LAD at 7:10.

 

Speaking of O'Grady........when did he pitch and did he stay up and not just a one game up??  I haven't seen him.

 

He pitched last Saturday and did stay up but it has only been that one game because of the all star break. 

 

 

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lol Stanton has been overrated since he came into the league.We dont win with him, so im all for trading him.

 

Here's something to make you lol more.

 

Stanton is OPS'ing .936 this season.  

 

On pace for a 5.0 WAR

 

lol at your own stipidity

 

 

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