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so sad. i HATE the Giants - mostly because I work with an incredibly obnoxious Giant fan.  I do occasionally plaster her desk with printed pictures of Cousins trucking Posey though.

 

Yeah,  Fish ain't getting any of the Giants top prospects if they're eating all his salary. What a fucking cheap organization and way to show your withered fan base you're any different than the previous regime.

 

 

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This whole situation is stupid. We're about to trade the NL MVP for nothing. This has to be the oddest trade in MLB history

 

It is stupid on the surface but there are lots of reasons it isn’t. You can evaluate this contract any number of ways and decide if it is worth it or not but the reality is that the Marlins are not in a position to spend that kind of money on one player right now.  Making this type of commitment to Stanton makes sense for a $150 M payroll team.  It doesn’t make sense when your owner wants payroll to be $90 million in 2018 and you’re currently got roughly that exact amount tied up in guaranteed contracts in 2018 for only eight players.  Eight! It is fair to be critical of ownership for limiting payroll to $90 million dollars when you look at the batting order and consider the possibilities on offense.  It is also easy to understand their desire to jettison this contract when you look down into the farm and see next to nothing coming in to help a pitching staff that is in shambles.  What Hill and his people have done to the farm has been nothing short of shocking.  It is particularly galling when you look across the state and you see Tampa Bay call up young pitchers year after year who contribute quite well at the major league level at a very affordable rate.  These are young players they develop.  We develop nobody.  We make stupid decisions in free agency, it isn’t a smart idea to spend money in free agency to fix a pitching staff that is in the condition that ours is in.  Free agency is there to supplement and plug holes.  It isn’t there for roster reconstruction.  The sensible thing is to rebuild from the ground up. 

 

 

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One more thing to consider is the Albert Pujols trajectory.  At 31, we offered him ten years $275 million.  Fortunately he turned down the offer. Had he accepted there would be no team willing to take that contract off our hands.  Yes Stanton is 28, but we're not competing in any of the productive years of his deal. 

 

 

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Bob Nightengale claims multiple Giants execs have shot down the rumors of the return being Panik Shaw and Beede. Man can't believe anything. Just when I'm starting to come to terms with this return. There's no telling what we could be getting or giving up for that matter. 

 

ya.

 

its probably less.

 

 

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Stanton is a good player, obviously, but 2017 was the first year he stayed healthy and lived up to his massive potential.  What are the odds that he continues to stay healthy and have years like this one?  Probably not that good if you consider his history.  Are the Marlins less talented without him?  Obviously.  But this team could never afford such a ridiculous contract and Loria knew it and he knew that he wouldn't be around to have to be the one to make the hard choice.

 

 

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Stanton is a good player, obviously, but 2017 was the first year he stayed healthy and lived up to his massive potential.  What are the odds that he continues to stay healthy and have years like this one?  Probably not that good if you consider his history.  Are the Marlins less talented without him?  Obviously.  But this team could never afford such a ridiculous contract and Loria knew it and he knew that he wouldn't be around to have to be the one to make the hard choice.

 

He had other good years.  Look at that trajectory from 2011-2014. Yes '15 and '16 were partial seasons but last year wasn't even his best.

 

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It’s a salary dump plain and simple. 

 

I wonder if the new ownership has enough money to pay Stanton until the Winter Meetings?

 

Maybe Sherman and Jeter should set up a GoFundMe page so that fans can make contributions to make certain that they have enough to cover what will be Stanton’s last check from the Marlins.

 

 

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He had other good years.  Look at that trajectory from 2011-2014. Yes '15 and '16 were partial seasons but last year wasn't even his best.

 

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Yes, but is his value in injury plagued years enough that you cannot replace his production with a couple of cheaper power hitters down the road?  Power hitters are not as expensive as they used to be, and committing that much to one, albeit one of the top three in baseball, is going to just make his contract an albatross in a few years.  While I agree its stupid to not completely dismantle this team as others are saying, I will judge the front office on their acquisitions from now on, because trading Stanton and getting a poor return is inevitable since the day he signed that contract.

 

 

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