SonOfJack 2,579 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Three way deal? Hot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Erick 246 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I've followed him he has a terrific fastball and avg to below avg change and terrible everything else I do hope he’s not the best prospect in the deal. Just saying, most in the industry don’t agree that that’s his ceiling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poptart 0 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 that implies Alacantra is definitely the best player coming back. 16.5 of WAR traded so far, and the best return is an AA pitcher who, knowing Mike Hill trades, will fail as a starter and end up in the bullpen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fish20 0 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I do hope he’s not the best prospect in the deal. Just saying, most in the industry don’t agree that that’s his ceiling. i think youd be hard pressed to find anyone in the industry who would say that's his ceiling. thats complete bullshit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 The ceiling vs. floor talk is just semantics. Bottom line is that Alcantara is not an exciting major piece in an Ozuna deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pollythewog 12 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I do hope he’s not the best prospect in the deal. Just saying, most in the industry don’t agree that that’s his ceiling. maybe before 2017 season they thought that, but he made zero progress last year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fish20 0 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 maybe before 2017 season they thought that, but he made zero progress last year his value has literally been at it's highest this offseason following the AFL performance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilverBullet 2,705 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Surprised we still don't know details yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rydawg 99 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 SMH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SonOfJack 2,579 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Surprised we still don't know details yet. Yeah this is taking forever to get out there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Retro_Marlins25 0 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Surprised we still don't know details yet. IMO thats not good for us Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SonOfJack 2,579 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 #HillStrikesAgain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Retro_Marlins25 0 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 so basically another package full of trash Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 It's kind of scary that he's the one the Marlins wanted all along. I wonder if this is a Hill or Denbo move. I'm guessing it's the latter but Alcantara seems like a Michael Hill player. Maybe they know something I don't, but this deal seems disappointing so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CYmarlins 25 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Where the heck is the outfielder? Damn it at least get Grichuk to fill a vacancy. That deal is trash if it ends up being the final one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SongInTheAir 424 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 The Marlins get fleeced so often they should start a sheep farm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fish20 0 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 It's kind of scary that he's the one the Marlins wanted all along. I wonder if this is a Hill or Denbo move. I'm guessing it's the latter but Alcantara seems like a Michael Hill player. Maybe they know something I don't, but this deal seems disappointing so far. agreed. I will say that around the time of the AFL Alcantara's stock was soaring, but i was really hoping he'd be the second prospect in any deal. Let's see the other 3 prospects though. Id assume Dakota hudson is also part of this deal and if so, that's another high floor mid rotation guy to counter the high ceiling low floor that Alcantara has. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fish20 0 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 This would be the type of return I'd expect if we dumped a bad contract with Ozuna but that hasn't been reported as happening. Weird. STL also has an incredible farm system and Alcantara's stock has risen recently, so 3 more prospects from their system could still be really solid. I have a feeling hudson and/or gomber will be in this deal too plus a minor league OF (of which they have a ton of solid ones). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Retro_Marlins25 0 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 we better have gotten Jack Flaherty to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 This move is so bizarre. I'm more excited about Guzman. The Marlins should have finally gotten their yuge haul by trading Ozuna. What a letdown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SonOfJack 2,579 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I'm waiting for the complete deal to give my actual reaction but it doesn't look good as of yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MRMarlin93 0 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 [No message] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hammerhead 0 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Is it just me or does this feel a hell of a lot worse than last two firesales? At least before those we won the damn WS the year before. This team was as Stanton said a few starters away from serious playoff contention. Yeah the system was thin but this whole process was totally unnecessary if Jeter was smart about dealings, shed Prado (Anderson), Straily, and a few other costly contracts, made some educated SP acquisitions, and only raised payroll a few mil, if that. Instead this organization has been set back at least five years. Loria was a terrible owner. Between everything he’s done since taking over Jeter has started out as a worse one. And we even still have the HR sculpture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rydawg 99 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I know one has nothing to do with the other but we are still a circus. LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Retro_Marlins25 0 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 thank god. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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