pollythewog 12 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 his value has literally been at it's highest this offseason following the AFL performance. wut he sucked at the AFL and it was 15 innings Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poptart 0 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Is it just me or does this feel a hell of a lot worse than last two firesales? yup. there is no light at the end of this tunnel. 16.5 WAR traded and the farm system got upgraded from the 30th best in baseball to... i dunno? the 29th? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THRILLHO 57 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Is it just me or does this feel a hell of a lot worse than last two firesales? At least before those we won the damn WS the year before. Maybe it is age setting in but I'm struggling to remember a 2004 firesale. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SongInTheAir 424 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Poor Yelich, he's going to have to deal with playing on a 40-win team next year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rydawg 99 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Is it just me or does this feel a hell of a lot worse than last two firesales? At least before those we won the damn WS the year before. This team was as Stanton said a few starters away from serious playoff contention. Yeah the system was thin but this whole process was totally unnecessary if Jeter was smart about dealings, shed Prado (Anderson), Straily, and a few other costly contracts, made some educated SP acquisitions, and only raised payroll a few mil, if that. Instead this organization has been set back at least five years. Loria was a terrible owner. Between everything he’s done since taking over Jeter has started out as a worse one. And we even still have the HR sculpture. Preach to the choir brother. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DropkickAlex 0 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Is it just me or does this feel a hell of a lot worse than last two firesales? At least before those we won the damn WS the year before. This team was as Stanton said a few starters away from serious playoff contention. Yeah the system was thin but this whole process was totally unnecessary if Jeter was smart about dealings, shed Prado (Anderson), Straily, and a few other costly contracts, made some educated SP acquisitions, and only raised payroll a few mil, if that. Instead this organization has been set back at least five years. Loria was a terrible owner. Between everything he’s done since taking over Jeter has started out as a worse one. And we even still have the HR sculpture. I agree with this. If you shed those contracts and get some solid pitching you can compete. This is more than likely the last year the Nationals have a huge strangle hold on the division as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SonOfJack 2,579 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Maybe it is age setting in but I'm struggling to remember a 2004 firesale. Same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fish20 0 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 wut he sucked at the AFL and it was 15 innings lol, he definitely didnt suck, and prospect potential most of the time is different from stats in a small sample size. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Erick 246 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 This move is so bizarre. I'm more excited about Guzman. The Marlins should have finally gotten their yuge haul by trading Ozuna. What a letdown. Fully agree with you on this one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Erick 246 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 wut he sucked at the AFL and it was 15 innings I wasn't there, but he impressed scouts in the AFL for some reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MRMarlin93 0 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 [uSER=4467]@Quinton McCracken[/uSER] I guess the moves made in-between the 2005 and 2006 season? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pollythewog 12 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I wasn't there, but he impressed scouts in the AFL for some reason. he impressed cause of his fastball which was hitting 100+ and is indeed very good Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hammerhead 0 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 he impressed cause of his fastball which was hitting 100+ Which won’t be the case if he sticks as a starter which I’m sure we will doing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THRILLHO 57 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Regardless of where you sit on Alcantara's prospect potential the fact that we're debating his AFL showing is not a good sign. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pollythewog 12 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Which won’t be the case if he sticks as a starter which I’m sure we will doing. exactly...he was hitting that in 2ip type work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pollythewog 12 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 before alcantara's fall stars game which is the one where scouts were "impressed" his line was: In four regular-season starts, he's posted a 5.73 ERA, allowed 10 hits, issued eight walks and struck out 10 in 11 innings. Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Erick 246 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 How have the other 3 prospects not been reported yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SongInTheAir 424 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Three other prospects (so no Piscotty or Grichuk). Deal won't be announced until tomorrow, meaning the Marlins twitter will announce it in February. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CYmarlins 25 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 How have the other 3 prospects not been reported yet? Probably still discussing them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilverBullet 2,705 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Yea now I don't know what to say. Damn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
knglover 0 Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 How have the other 3 prospects not been reported yet? I am guessing they are international players and the team is trying to contact them before the names are released. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fish20 0 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 before alcantara's fall stars game which is the one where scouts were "impressed" his line was: In four regular-season starts, he's posted a 5.73 ERA, allowed 10 hits, issued eight walks and struck out 10 in 11 innings. Lol so the 15 innings in the AFL is stupid to base an opinion on, but you are gonna judge him on his first 8.1 innings as a 22 year old in the majors? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SongInTheAir 424 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Probably still discussing them. Nah, the deal is done. It's just a matter of the right (or wrong, I guess) person catching wind of the names. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rydawg 99 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 What are the chances the Cardinals get a better return for Piscotty than we got for Ozuna? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pollythewog 12 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 so the 15 innings in the AFL is stupid to base an opinion on, but you are gonna judge him on his first 8.1 innings as a 22 year old in the majors? my man, those were his 4 AFL league starts. He was RP in mlb and had the same problems he always had, shitty command, no breaking pitches Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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