Piazza31 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I wanted the relievers traded at the trade deadline. A lot of people did actually. Except for you because you think a baseball team is a marriage. I got news for ya, even a marriage is more rewarding than this team.... Wait a minute.... it IS like a marriage. Once in a blue moon you get lucky--- but mostly you walk around with blue balls hoping for next year. TaiwanMarlin for Admin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 A guy like Brad Hand for instance had a much longer successful track record so it was easy for a team to trade more for him. Just like we know Kyle's success was brief, so do all the other teams. How do we know for a fact the Marlins were offered a good haul for him? Barraclough’s success hasn’t really been brief. He’s been solid for about 3 or 4 years now. Hand’s a better reliever, but we didn’t necessarily need a Hand-like return to trade him for good value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Good relief arms with long term team control got their values,just see how bad the FA relief arms the Cardinals signed this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyggyMarlin Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Theres a MetsBaseball? Larry's new home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piazza31 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Larry's new home When will I be traded there.... I was supposed to be a rental. I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bret Hart Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Last 12 games : 10.1ip 18 hit-allowed (4 hr-allowed) 13r(13er) 9bb allowed with 12K opp avg .367 opp ops 1.128 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Last 12 games : 10.1ip 18 hit-allowed (4 hr-allowed) 13r(13er) 9bb allowed with 12K opp avg .367 opp ops 1.128 Tommy John needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Tommy John needed. I suppose it's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piazza31 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I suppose it's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Michael Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Mattingly mentioned there will be a lot of "top-stepping" when Barraclough is pitching. So I guess he'll take Claw out when the game is tied rather than letting him lose it altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Mattingly mentioned there will be a lot of "top-stepping" when Barraclough is pitching. So I guess he'll take Claw out when the game is tied rather than letting him lose it altogether. Excuse me,anybody told me the meaning of "top-stepping",couldn't google it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Excuse me,anybody told me the meaning of "top-stepping",couldn't google it. He's standing at the top step of the dugout ready to walk out and remove the pitcher at all times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 He's standing at the top step of the dugout ready to walk out and remove the pitcher at all times. Thanks a lot and I got it,it seems treated the closer more like the 7th and 8th inning relief pitcher,didn't just give him every chance to finish the inning but to remove him once the game was endangered,I think it's an eclectic way to him and to the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Thanks a lot and I got it,it seems treated the closer more like the 7th and 8th inning relief pitcher,didn't just give him every chance to finish the inning but to remove him once the game was endangered,I think it's an eclectic way to him and to the team. It just baffles me that Mattingly doesn't seem to think there's anything wrong with letting him just sweat it out on the mind until the game ends with a ball in the seats. Say what you will about not wanting to hurt a player's feelings, but it does much more damage to his confidence going forward if he continues to fail. July should have been a major warning sign that things aren't fine, and yet, Donnie continues to send him to the bump in the most important situations. Did it with Ziegler as well, so I guess I shouldn't be too shocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_gmac Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 When will I be traded there.... I was supposed to be a rental. I no one will take your horrendous contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 no one will take your horrendous contract Must’ve been a Loria-created contract then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 People have always said Don has bad bullpen management but it's to an extreme with Barraclough. It feels like he literally leaves him out there to die every single time. It seems to be more than just showing confidence in the guy. It comes off like stubbornness. Could be wrong but I felt like Ziegler (and others) got pulled more often when he was struggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 People have always said Don has bad bullpen management but it's to an extreme with Barraclough. It feels like he literally leaves him out there to die every single time. It seems to be more than just showing confidence in the guy. It comes off like stubbornness. Could be wrong but I felt like Ziegler (and others) got pulled more often when he was struggling. Didn't every manager has bad bullpen management when his bullpen blow a game ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Didn't every manager has bad bullpen management when his bullpen blow a game ? That's what the fans will have you believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBs Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 I think Ziegs had 6 blown saves before he was pulled. Mattingly simply doesn’t know how to manage a bullpen and is too afraid to hurt a closers feelings and let’s them throw away game after game. He manages as if he’s just asleep in the dugout. He sits there and watches Barraclough walk the bases in Tampa and almost an exact repeat tonight and just refuses to pull the trigger on him. At this point, If someone told me Mattingly was tanking games on purpose with his bullpen management, it would be hard not to believe them. I agree, how??? Can a manager watch his guy going down for the proverbial third time and not throw him a rope!!! I just watched a Tampa Rays game where the opposing team(White Sox)went through at least four pitchers in one inning to get out of a hole and ultimately win the game. When the going gets tough, Mattingly is just not a team manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entendu Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 This is a lost season and he's teaching his guys to fend for themselves in these bad situations. Who cares that they blow saves? It may equal a better draft slot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTrain Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Who cares that they blow saves? *raises hand* I want Barraclough out there creating more demand for himself, not substantially less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Didn't every manager has bad bullpen management when his bullpen blow a game ? If it's once or twice every so often, you give them a pass. If it's consistent ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 If it's consistent ... How long do we need to wait for the end of this post? I don't understand the point of cliffhangers on a message board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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