SilverBullet Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/top-32-prospects-miami-marlins/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 after all those trades/nonsense zero 55 FVs and only 3 50s boohoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Why 32? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 Why 32? One for each Marlins fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 One for each Marlins fan. It never gets old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 excited to follow Osiris Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 excited to follow Osiris Johnson https://twitter.com/johnson_osiris Why? He hasn't tweeted in over a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THRILLHO Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Only two of the top ten on that list were part of the organization at the end of 2017. That’s meaningful and illustrates how dire things were. Also with all the fanfare surrounding Mesa he’s still ranked behind four guys acquired last winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_gmac Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 excited to follow Osiris Johnson I tho u I saw Odrisamer Despaigne there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97marlin Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 All it has made me do is ask if an 86 mile per hour fastball works in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THRILLHO Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 All it has made me do is ask if an 86 mile per hour fastball works in the majors. What does Rich Hill top out at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixYearItch Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Confirms that the pitiful return for trading away the best outfield in baseball has wrecked the future of this team. Kudos to Dumbo and Hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Only two of the top ten on that list were part of the organization at the end of 2017. That’s meaningful and illustrates how dire things were. Also with all the fanfare surrounding Mesa he’s still ranked behind four guys acquired last winter. Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTrain Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 A very eye opening list. The rebuild will be a long one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 A very eye opening list. The rebuild will be a long one. Really !? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Massive improvement on this list compared to the old regime. Kinda funny how all the usual suspects are not acknowledging that. They seem to forget how awful the farm system was, you aren't going to go from worst to first in organizational depth. It is a process and it is headed in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 Confirms that the pitiful return for trading away the best outfield in baseball has wrecked the future of this team. Kudos to Dumbo and Hill. Wrecked the future of this team? Or improved it from what it was before then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97marlin Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 At this point, I think I've given up on the prospect rankings. The list kind of emphasizes how we have three guys (Yamammoto, Neidart, Gallen), four if you include Richards, who don't throw "hard enough" but have numbers that suggest they are major league prospects. Who knows we might have the slowest fast ball velocity of any major league team in two years. Thatd be fun. And if the numbers so far are any indication, it might not be a bad rotation either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTrain Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Jordan Holloway is the 9th best Marlins prospect. Jordan Holloway. -Usual Suspect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovertical Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Massive improvement on this list compared to the old regime. Kinda funny how all the usual suspects are not acknowledging that. They seem to forget how awful the farm system was, you aren't going to go from worst to first in organizational depth. It is a process and it is headed in the right direction. so what was once a flaming dumpster fire just had someone piss on it to put out the fire. Hooray? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 so what was once a flaming dumpster fire just had someone piss on it to put out the fire. Hooray? Proves the rebuild was the right idea, at least there has been improvement and a trend in the right direction instead of just treading water while also being a losing team in big leagues. To anyone who may have forgot, the old roster produced consistent losing records, while the minor league system was a barren wasteland. Those who hated the idea of a rebuild, seem to live in a fantasy world where a WS contending team was together. It wasn't and they weren't a player or two away from it either before that old argument comes up again. We can't know how bad or good the returns for those players will end up, but in Stanton's case -- we already know our side of it. Even if the players we got back don't help out, it was a giant financial relief. Something that may be appreciated in a few years when he's set to earn over $150 million more and is in a decline. A contract that can be absorbed by the Yankees (see A-Rod) but can't be by a franchise like Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97marlin Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Proves the rebuild was the right idea, at least there has been improvement and a trend in the right direction instead of just treading water while also being a losing team in big leagues. To anyone who may have forgot, the old roster produced consistent losing records, while the minor league system was a barren wasteland. Those who hated the idea of a rebuild, seem to live in a fantasy world where a WS contending team was together. It wasn't and they weren't a player or two away from it either before that old argument comes up again. We can't know how bad or good the returns for those players will end up, but in Stanton's case -- we already know our side of it. Even if the players we got back don't help out, it was a giant financial relief. Something that may be appreciated in a few years when he's set to earn over $150 million more and is in a decline. A contract that can be absorbed by the Yankees (see A-Rod) but can't be by a franchise like Miami. 100% agree. Personally though, I do think Devers will turn out, he is one of the few guys that the article really likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piazza31 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I still disagree with the rebuild, we had TWO OF's that were entirely capable of carrying a lineup in Yelich and Stanton. Both were still in their prime, controlled at a minimum of 3-5 years and both accomplished with the bat and in the field. Those two are both are better and will be better than any OF prospect we will get or have gotten in trade, the only difference is they were cheaper. Trading Ozuna was ok, considering he was closer to free agency and probably would have cost a boat load to extend after the season he had. We also got a Quality arm in Sandy and an OF Replacement in Sierra if we really needed it. Trading Straily, and the bullpen arms would have done more. So would have moving Bour sooner. Realistically a core of Yelich, Stanton and Realmutto would have been a hell of a core for this team, and would have probably helped our chances to keep JT long term too. Right now, instead of 7 positions to fill we could have had 4 to hope to develop well and find some fish in a barrell so to speak. C- Realmuto 1B- Bour ---> Prado and hope a prospect develops/acquired 2B- Gordon ---> Dietrich or Riddle 3B- Prado ---> Anderson SS- Rojas ---> Rojas or Riddle LF- Ozuna ---> Maybin, then Sierra, Dean, or Braxton Lee (before rule 5) CF Yelich ---> Yelich RF Stanton ---> Stanton SP Sandy, Chen, Urena, Jarlin, Richards, Smith and the rest. A lineup that has Stanton, Yelich and Realmuto and Anderson at 3B is a way better lineup than anything else we are going to trot out for the next 3 years and is better than a bunch of lineups in the NL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piazza31 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Proves the rebuild was the right idea, at least there has been improvement and a trend in the right direction instead of just treading water while also being a losing team in big leagues. To anyone who may have forgot, the old roster produced consistent losing records, while the minor league system was a barren wasteland. Those who hated the idea of a rebuild, seem to live in a fantasy world where a WS contending team was together. It wasn't and they weren't a player or two away from it either before that old argument comes up again. We can't know how bad or good the returns for those players will end up, but in Stanton's case -- we already know our side of it. Even if the players we got back don't help out, it was a giant financial relief. Something that may be appreciated in a few years when he's set to earn over $150 million more and is in a decline. A contract that can be absorbed by the Yankees (see A-Rod) but can't be by a franchise like Miami. I wasn't opposed to trading some assets like Bour and Ozuna, but I didn't want a complete tear down keeping Stanton would have kept Yelich, and eventually Realmuto, three All Stars. We had Anderson already. Thats 4 parts of a 8 part lineup where proven legitimate MLB players would be right now compared to just one (anderson). They should have waited and kept that part together. The rebuild would be ahead of schedule in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I wasn't opposed to trading some assets like Bour and Ozuna, but I didn't want a complete tear down keeping Stanton would have kept Yelich, and eventually Realmuto, three All Stars. We had Anderson already. Thats 4 parts of a 8 part lineup where proven legitimate MLB players would be right now compared to just one (anderson). They should have waited and kept that part together. The rebuild would be ahead of schedule in that case. Bour had no trade value as we discovered. And the team was already a losing team with Bour and Ozuna, so they would have remained a losing team. Just would have been a more expensive losing team, while at the same time having no minor league system and yes, they do have one now even if it isn't the best one. That isn't a sustainable way to run a franchise, to just keep losing up top while having no future in minors. That's the Loria way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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