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Who the fuck protested? We didn't have a pots and pans walk down Calle Ocho.... we just stopped giving them our money hands over fist like we did in years past because it was no longer entertainment.

 

The money will come back when the product comes back.

 

I look forward to hearing if you're determined to be a real fan or a fake fan.

 

 

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Cool story. Welcome to the site.

 

True REAL FANS understand this is a rebuild and that it HAD TO BE DONE. There is none of this "just add two more pitchers" nonsense, there is no "but we had two MVPs on the field and another all-star." The latter one may be true, BUT WE DID NOT WIN WITH THEM. We had that trio for the better part of five years and every year had a losing record with no farm system as far as the eye could see. That doesn't work.

 

Thanks and have a great day.

 

Marlins are in the division hunt last year if they kept that team together and added to it. 

 

 

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I look forward to hearing if you're determined to be a real fan or a fake fan.

 

Drake said it best:

 

Fuck a fake protest, where your real protests at? Started!)

 

Uh man this shit so ill that we had to restart it

Magic City my first home like I'm DJ Khaled

Money counter go Burrr', when you sellin' out the park'n

Owner car garage, all star triage

stanton go brrr 'cause he know this shit retarded

Fuck Jeter amirite? before we make it to the seats

 

#waittosee

 

 

 

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We will ask this question for eternity and never get any real answers.

 

The statement itself is correct assuming everyone stays healthy, but the question is who do you add.

 

And let's be honest here, the team still lived and died with Stanton's bat. Stanton dropped off somewhat in September, and so did the team.

 

 

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but the question is who do you add.

 

This has always been the question and there is not an answer.

 

In 2017, Ozuna, Bour and Stanton all had above average years and the team STILL had a losing record. 

 

Obviously they needed pitching but the pitchers they needed didn't exist or were not obtainable. They weren't there in free agency and the team had no assets they could trade in order to land guys like that. The system had nothing useful and if they traded one or more of those bats and somehow landed a useful arm, how exactly would they be better off. I won't even entertain that wacky idea of trading millions for a front-line starter because that user had to be a troll, nobody could actually believe that was an option.

 

 

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This has always been the question and there is not an answer.

 

In 2017, Ozuna, Bour and Stanton all had above average years and the team STILL had a losing record. 

 

Obviously they needed pitching but the pitchers they needed didn't exist or were not obtainable. They weren't there in free agency and the team had no assets they could trade in order to land guys like that. The system had nothing useful and if they traded one or more of those bats and somehow landed a useful arm, how exactly would they be better off. I won't even entertain that wacky idea of trading millions for a front-line starter because that user had to be a troll, nobody could actually believe that was an option.

 

Exactly. The assets we had were already at the Major League level and producing for us. Without free agents available, the necessary talent would have to be traded for, and all we had to make it happen was what we needed on offense.

 

Maybe we should have gotten ahead of the curve on the Opener. Had Barraclough start a couple times instead.

 

 

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Yeah, like believing we just two pitchers away.

 

You are just too stupid to get it. We could've traded $25 million to a team for their ace and put with the 2017 offense, we'd go all the way.. Those kind of trades happen all the time according to sdg (don't tell him it has never has happened even once) Cheapness prevented a world title.

 

 

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That's the thing. If we don't have the cash to pay for a free agent, how do we suddenly have the cash to trade for a player outright? Not only would you have to take the contract, but you have to put in extra for the team you're getting him from. No team is going to say, "Oh you're going to cover his contract? Sweet, have him." Gotta throw in the extra.

 

 

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That's the thing. If we don't have the cash to pay for a free agent, how do we suddenly have the cash to trade for a player outright? Not only would you have to take the contract, but you have to put in extra for the team you're getting him from. No team is going to say, "Oh you're going to cover his contract? Sweet, have him." Gotta throw in the extra.

 

Not to mention, which teams are looking to sell their good pitchers? The concept is not plausible but you can't tell him that.

 

 

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here's what happened:

 

1) I said name free agents they could have signed. When he looked and noticed there were none, he said we could have traded.

 

2) When I asked traded how? By trading non-existent prospects or key offensive players? He realized that's right and switched to trade cash for players!

 

 

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I would concede that we could have kept Stanton and Yelich. Ozuna and Dee would have had to be traded at the least to get SOMETHING decent. Both were coming off of big years, they probably could have netted more in a return than they did, but eh. 

 

Granted we were going for prospects, not quite MLB players. Probably be more of a one-for-one or at most two trade for both.

 

 

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I would concede that we could have kept Stanton and Yelich. Ozuna and Dee would have had to be traded at the least to get SOMETHING decent. Both were coming off of big years, they probably could have netted more in a return than they did, but eh. 

 

Granted we were going for prospects, not quite MLB players. Probably be more of a one-for-one or at most two trade for both.

 

And considering the team was a losing team with that solid offense, how do they become a better team in 2018 by trading away some of that offense even if they landed a decent arm back?

 

 

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And considering the team was a losing team with that solid offense, how do they become a better team in 2018 by trading away some of that offense even if they landed a decent arm back?

 

Exactly. People just assume way too much there, as if everything happened in a vacuum. "If you sign these pitchers for the rotation the bullpen automatically becomes better because they work less." Sure, that makes sense, assuming those starting pitchers do what they need to do. But is that enough to improve the 2017 team, who went 77-85, to make the playoffs? The wild cards in the National League were Chicago and Colorado. They did better than Atlanta did, so our path would have been the division. In that case, it's a 14 win improvement that would have been needed. Do a couple pitchers make this team 14 games better? I just can't see it.

 

 

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#MARLINSTWOPITCHERSAWAY

 

Really it's not that we needed 2 pitchers. We just needed pitcher who would do their job and hold the other team. We had plenty of offense in 2017. We always grinded. We always lost on pitchers no holding. Now do that & you got easily 10 to 15 games in the win column & you have a chance in the playoffs. This wasn't rocket science! Our offense did their job well. The pitching was not.

 

 

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Really it's not that we needed 2 pitchers. We just needed pitcher who would do their job and hold the other team. We had plenty of offense in 2017. We always grinded. We always lost on pitchers no holding. Now do that & you got easily 10 to 15 games in the win column & you have a chance in the playoffs. This wasn't rocket science! Our offense did their job well. The pitching was not.

 

These are all true. But unfortunately after so many years of what essentially became the same formula and it wasn't working.

 

 

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We should have tried for half a season more. What didnt work 2013-2017 would have worked if we just tried for at least the first half of 2018. 

 

Eh let's not lump 2013 into that, let's say 2014-2017. We knew 2013 was going to be an awful season.

 

 

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