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Stanton traded to Yankees for Castro, Guzman and Devers

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Not that I think this is the right move but... keep Ozuna and Yelich, send some money with Stanton to get back major league pieces and some young starting pitching, and thus make an attempt to be competitive in 2018 to show the fanbase that we're not tanking it? Could that be Jeter's plan? Can we "compete" (or give the illusion of competing) while still trading Stanton? 

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Sorry, but I don't buy the idea that trading Stanton is not just a salary dump. They are not going to get the kind of pieces back that they need. Plus we already know that Gordon/Prado (good luck with the last one) are on the way out even after Stanton is gone.

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50 minutes ago, fish20 said:

if we were actually offered that we better jump on that in a heartbeat.

Anytime you can snatch up a SS with a 0.2 WAR you have to jump all over it!

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13 minutes ago, DTrain said:

Anytime you can snatch up a SS with a 0.2 WAR you have to jump all over it!

He would be the 3rd most important player in that deal, and he is coming off a down injury plagued year a year after making the all star team.  We'd also be getting one of the best pitching prospects in baseball, a 2nd really good pitching prospect, and an mlb ready starting OF.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Bald Eagle said:

It also doesn't say how much money the fish would be sending. You better believe it'd have to be a lot. Ziegler's overpaid and obviously we know G's insane remaining 295 mil commitment. 

Anyone that believes they will land top prospects which I guess Reyes is and not send back money with G is delusional.

you're delusional if you think that the NL MVP wont get a top prospect, regardless of the money involved.  You'll see soon enough.

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The Marlins can get a top prospect for Stanton, but only after eating much more salary than they should be.

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Just now, el penguino said:

The Marlins can get a top prospect for Stanton, but only after eating much more salary than they should be.

this talk is so over done.  He's not owed 40+ million a year.  He doesnt go over 30 million, and he is capable of hitting 60 hr's yearly, and especially in the AL, he has value at the end of his contract as a DH.  We might have to throw like 5 million a year for every year after the opt out, but his contract is really not as bad as it's made out to be.  Especially after you see what guys like Martinez and Hosmer get this offseason and the Machado and Harper next offseason.

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1 minute ago, Bald Eagle said:

Exactly what I keep saying. But some here think they'll get one back and also not take on much salary.

I just think 5 million a year or so after the opt out is not much.  Thats like, what, 35-40 million but over the course of 7-8 years?  Thats not that significant.  The guy is the NL MVP and is one of the best power hitters in league history.  We will 100% get a top prospect in return.

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Frankly, I think the Marlins would be better off having the other team take on that $40 million than "buy" a prospect with it, even if the payout is deferred.

You are also forgetting the fact that the Marlins have very little leverage and negotiating power here, which will limit their returns. The franchise is operating at a considerable financial loss, so they are desperate to dump that contract. Their hands are also tied by the fact that Stanton can reject a trade to St. Louis or Boston, which immediately increases the negotiating power of a team like San Francisco. And remember that the SF farm system is pretty awful.

The bottom line is that Stanton has to go for financial reasons. And there are so few viable trade partners on account of the NTC and the fact that so few teams can actually afford to take on such a hefty contract. Even if you make the case that Stanton is worth the remainder of his salary in terms of productivity, the fact remains that his value on the trade market is only as high as another team is willing to pay. Another team does not have to pay that full value on account of the desperate situation the Marlins are in here.

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