Das Texan Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I know the team motto of late seems to have been "player X was just out of our price range" but come on, $2M is not an overpay here. I already said who cares. Really closer to a 1 mil player at this point but the larger point is the idiot players health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Everyone here cares to some degree, except you, as always... why are you even here? it’s a dime a dozen backup catcher that is jeters buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 it’s a dime a dozen backup catcher that is jeters buddy. Didn't answer my question... the only person who doesn't care is you so why are you even here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photo-Realistic Billy Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Someone explain why this is a better move than Holaday behind the plate. I don’t know much about either so what’s the advantage? In just over 100 PA, Holaday somehow managed to accumulate almost -5 runs in defensive value, good for 9th worst in the league. PROOF: https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=c&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=100&type=8&season=2019&month=0&season1=2019&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=2019-01-01&enddate=2019-12-31&sort=20,a I actually like Holaday, but Cervelli, a solid hitter and one of the better defensive catchers in the last 10 years, is an obvious and enormous upgrade. Maybe Holaday comes back on a MiL deal again, but he's very much a replacement level guy. Not an upgrade to even Chad Wallach. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 A thought on Holaday, he was fine here but was already here for a few seasons and always as a non roster invite having to earn his role... maybe he wanted to explore other opportunities and turned down any interest the Marlins had in him? Just a thought because often we see these role player guys trying to latch on to better opportunities for themselves even though to us they seem like they're just jumping team to team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 In just over 100 PA, Holaday somehow managed to accumulate almost -5 runs in defensive value, good for 9th worst in the league. PROOF: https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=c&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=100&type=8&season=2019&month=0&season1=2019&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=2019-01-01&enddate=2019-12-31&sort=20,a I actually like Holaday, but Cervelli, a solid hitter and one of the better defensive catchers in the last 10 years, is an obvious and enormous upgrade. Maybe Holaday comes back on a MiL deal again, but he's very much a replacement level guy. Not an upgrade to even Chad Wallach. Good post, thanks for looking that up. Maybe the Marlins just didn't want to give Holaday a guaranteed deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photo-Realistic Billy Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Good post, thanks for looking that up. Maybe the Marlins just didn't want to give Holaday a guaranteed deal. I'd be stunned if he gets anything but a MiL offer from anyone this offseason. But I could see him finding his way back to the majors at some point in 2020 with somebody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Good signing. You guys will like him. Can get hot and go on tears at times. Awesome attitude. Anyone complaining about a 2 mil contract is clearly a douche who has been trolling this site for years 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FishFan95 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I guess the Marlins wanted to scare the shit out of Cervelli before the signing was official. [MEDIA=twitter]1209171360465006594[/MEDIA] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricOwens! Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Reminder that @Das Texan was an Astros fan before he was a Marlins fan, developing treacherous behavior from a young age. Reminder that Das Texan's wife, a Cardinals fan, made him stop being a Marlins fan because their MLB.TV subscription was getting too expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Reminder that @Das Texan was an Astros fan before he was a Marlins fan, developing treacherous behavior from a young age. Reminder that Das Texan's wife, a Cardinals fan, made him stop being a Marlins fan because their MLB.TV subscription was getting too expensive. Uhhh.... MLB.tv is the same price no matter what team you follow or even if you follow many teams. Just FYI. And nobody made me stop being anything. The Marlins fire sale to kick off this decade decided things for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricOwens! Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Uhhh.... MLB.tv is the same price no matter what team you follow or even if you follow many teams. Just FYI. And nobody made me stop being anything. The Marlins fire sale to kick off this decade decided things for me. Thanks. I wouldn't know because I've been a fan of my local team my whole life. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 The Marlins fire sale to kick off this decade decided things for me. If I stopped being a fan of something I would cut it out of my life entirely... not continue to participate in it just for the sake of trolling. And on top of that, your reason for hating the team, Loria, is long gone yet you continue to stick around to bitch when the specific problem for you is long gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 If I stopped being a fan of something I would cut it out of my life entirely... not continue to participate in it just for the sake of trolling. And on top of that, your reason for hating the team, Loria, is long gone yet you continue to stick around to bitch when the specific problem for you is long gone. Well the new ownership acts just like the old ownership in respect to payroll and all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photo-Realistic Billy Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Well the new ownership acts just like the old ownership in respect to payroll and all... This is true, except for all the things they have done. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishFan95 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Well the new ownership acts just like the old ownership in respect to payroll and all... The new group made the moves that were sensible at the time. They were not going to go to the playoffs even if they signed the 2 best starters available (Arrieta and Darvish). However, there were enough big differences in the way the new group handled it to tell that it is not a "same shit, different day" scenario. Instead of pairing talent with bad contracts, they ended up eating Chen's, Prado's, and Tanaka's money. They have put a whole lot more money into drafts and IFA signings. And when they traded guys at the beginning they traded them separately to not dilute the talent in only a couple of deals, like Loria did with the Toronto deal in 2012. I know it was upsetting at the time, but the only people who think they are acting the same as the old ownership are the ones who have ignored the finer details of it all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishFan95 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Well the new ownership acts just like the old ownership in respect to payroll and all... Of course only time will tell, but I'm very optimistic in the direction of the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 [MEDIA=twitter]1216737209866473475[/MEDIA] Still have no idea why this team didn't keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 [MEDIA=twitter]1216737209866473475[/MEDIA] Still have no idea why this team didn't keep him. For whatever reason, they thought Cervelli was an upgrade over Holaday and that's the direction they went. Didn't you want this team to go out and get like all the available free agents? If anyone should be ecstatic that they instead went for a free agent on an mlb contract to be the backup catcher it should be you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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