SonOfJack 2,303 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 [MEDIA=twitter]1215811178892492805[/MEDIA] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SonOfJack 2,303 Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 Seems dumb to go to a hearing which often leads to bad feelings on the player's side over 250k but whatever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael 2,176 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Super dumb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taiwanmarlin 396 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Maybe to this team, every cent count. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Das Texan 130 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Nothing good happens in an arbitration hearing over 250k. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taiwanmarlin 396 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Nothing good happens in an arbitration hearing over 250k. What kind of bad things would happen ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarlinsLou 147 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 What kind of bad things would happen ? It pisses off the player - who you haven't had for very long - and sets a precedent to other players you're silly. I am all for negotiating hard and firm, but this amount is stupid. They did great with Villar and Urena (I would have guessed $1.5-2 million more), and maybe gave Conley $100-150k too much. They are well ahead on all of them. Just give the dude $2.45 and call it a day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hovertical 224 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 i'm curious what the lowest difference where arbitration was required has been since this process began years ago Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taiwanmarlin 396 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 i'm curious what the lowest difference where arbitration was required has been since this process began years ago One dollar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mystikol87 119 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Curious: how often have we heard about this process actually negatively-affecting the relationship between player and team? I know the process seem far-from-ideal, but maybe something similar already happens in contract negotiations? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilverBullet 2,328 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Frisaro always says that the Marlins are a file and trial team but that was really during the Loria years and I don't think Jeter has ever said they wouldn't negotiate past the exchange dates. So basically just saying there's still a chance they avoid arbitration considering how low the dollar amount is here. Remember yesterday's deadline is really a superficial thing. It was the deadline to exchange figures but many agreements still happen after the deadline. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Das Texan 130 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Curious: how often have we heard about this process actually negatively-affecting the relationship between player and team? I know the process seem far-from-ideal, but maybe something similar already happens in contract negotiations? You goto the hearing and you basically tell the player to his face why you dont value him for what he is worth. For a few mil difference it can make sense. For 250k its stupid to give any hurt feelings for the player unless you truly dont value that player long term. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Das Texan 130 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Frisaro always says that the Marlins are a file and trial team but that was really during the Loria years and I don't think Jeter has ever said they wouldn't negotiate past the exchange dates. So basically just saying there's still a chance they avoid arbitration considering how low the dollar amount is here. Remember yesterday's deadline is really a superficial thing. It was the deadline to exchange figures but many agreements still happen after the deadline. And if they actually goto trial they are morons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hovertical 224 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 You goto the hearing and you basically tell the player to his face why you dont value him for what he is worth. For a few mil difference it can make sense. For 250k its stupid to give any hurt feelings for the player unless you truly dont value that player long term. I tried this approach during my last yearly review at my job for an extra 250k - I'm on unemployment now = ( 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Das Texan 130 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I tried this approach during my last yearly review at my job for an extra 250k - I'm on unemployment now = ( well 250k at your job is not the same as 250k at this job. Its probably closer to $2500 to regular folks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FishFan95 679 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 well 250k at your job is not the same as 250k at this job. Its probably closer to $2500 to regular folks! I'd be happy to get a $2500 raise. But I'm just a grad student researcher and no one cares about us to give us that kind of money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hovertical 224 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 well 250k at your job is not the same as 250k at this job. Its probably closer to $2500 to regular folks! yeaaaaaah...that ain't happening at any of the jobs i've ever held either. no worries - just waiting for these companies to start sharing the money they've made off of the tax breaks passed for them. that's how it works right? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael 2,176 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I'd be happy to get a $2500 raise. But I'm just a grad student researcher and no one cares about us to give us that kind of money. What are you researching and why and how much longer do you have? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FishFan95 679 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 What are you researching and why and how much longer do you have? I am a Chemistry graduate student at UF. I'm studying nanomaterials and I have 3-4 years left. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael 2,176 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I am a Chemistry graduate student at UF. I'm studying nanomaterials and I have 3-4 years left. Ooh at 95 years old you better narrow that down to like a year. Best of luck! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SonOfJack 2,303 Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 Ooh at 95 years old you better narrow that down to like a year. Best of luck! pretty morbid man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael 2,176 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 pretty morbid man. We have to be realistic here, do we not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SonOfJack 2,303 Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 We have to be realistic here, do we not? Nah Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Das Texan 130 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I need to go demand from my boss a raise. I think I"ll do that tomorrow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SonOfJack 2,303 Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 I need to go demand from my boss a raise. I think I"ll do that tomorrow. I bet your boss is an asshole. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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