SirFishFan 331 Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 Tampa Bay Rays vs. Los Angeles Dodgers. Who are you going for? I have mixed feelings about this one, on the one hand, I like the Dodgers and I'm happy that they made it and they are the only other team in the NL after the Marlins that I wanted to see make it to the WS. On the other hand, there is the fact that the Rays are the other Florida team and they have never won the WS before and they have only been around since 1998 so that would be fun as well to see them get that title after not being relevant in the AL East or MLB playoff race for most of their history. This is a very evenly matched WS seeing as both teams were the best in the AL and NL so I can't really say either team is an underdog in this series. Well, I'm not super invested in this World Series (or any non Marlins game, actually), I probably won't even watch that much of the series, probably just check the scores from time to time during the game. So as a fan, I guess either team winning would be fine with me, if the Dodgers win, I would be happy for them, and if the Rays win they would definitely deserve it after a great season! (Even if I'm still a little bit frustrated about them going 5-1 against the Marlins this year.) 😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilverBullet 2,083 Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 I'd be happy with either team winning it but I guess I'm rooting for the Rays. I gotta say the Dodgers finally getting over the hump would be cool to see though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SonOfJack 2,055 Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 Go Rays! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmc523 494 Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 I don't really care either way, but I'd rather see the Rays win. David beating Goliath sort of thing, plus they're the other Florida team. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilverBullet 2,083 Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 12 hours ago, SonOfJack said: Go Rays! They're already there, no reason to keep saying this. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SonOfJack 2,055 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 How about that ending last night?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilverBullet 2,083 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 On 10/25/2020 at 6:43 AM, SonOfJack said: How about that ending last night?! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SirFishFan 331 Posted October 28 Author Share Posted October 28 Dodgers win! I'm happy for them.. They definitely deserved it. Time for the offseason to officially begin! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilverBullet 2,083 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 5 hours ago, SirFishFan said: Dodgers win! I'm happy for them.. They definitely deserved it. Meh. It was a short season with expanded playoffs, half the league got in the playoffs, and the Dodgers record was helped with wins in some 7 inning games. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SonOfJack 2,055 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Good series, wanted Rays to win but I am not angry the Dodgers won. Have nothing against them really. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilverBullet 2,083 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Saw one headline that called this Dodgers team the best Dodgers team ever. I thought the narrative for this season was that none of these teams records/winning percentages would be the same if this was a full season? Moving the goalposts again? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SonOfJack 2,055 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 1 minute ago, SilverBullet said: Saw one headline that called this Dodgers team the best Dodgers team ever. I thought the narrative for this season was that none of these teams records/winning percentages would be the same if this was a full season? Moving the goalposts again? Only the Marlins would have had a different and much worse season, duh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilverBullet 2,083 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 1 minute ago, SonOfJack said: Only the Marlins would have had a different and much worse season, duh And everyone else would have had a different but better season. If the 2020 season was 162 games the Marlins would have sank to last place, the Phillies and Mets would eventually overcome their issues to clinch the playoff berths they were guaranteed, and the Dodgers would have won 140 regular season games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael 1,959 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Team with worst manager ever reaches World Series after having 108-win equivalent season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SonOfJack 2,055 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Nobody would have second guessed Cash for leaving him in, just a bonehead decision Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilverBullet 2,083 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 2 minutes ago, SonOfJack said: Nobody would have second guessed Cash for leaving him in, just a bonehead decision The people who don't believe in analytics are gonna have a field day with this one for a long time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SonOfJack 2,055 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Just now, SilverBullet said: The people who don't believe in analytics are gonna have a field day with this one for a long time. Rightfully so. Need to put down the computer and use your own eyes/brain/gut sometimes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilverBullet 2,083 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Just now, SonOfJack said: Rightfully so. Need to put down the computer and use your own eyes/brain/gut sometimes. Yep. Last night was proof that even the most analytically driven teams need to use their own brains sometimes. Analytics is a great tool but it can't be the only tool. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilverBullet 2,083 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Not to mention the mental aspect for the opponents as well. Apparently when Snell was pulled the Dodgers dugout was ecstatic and Roberts says Mookie gave him a smile at that moment... was that in the Rays analytical paperwork? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hovertical 214 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 he pulled Snell during his first start too and toed the line and got away with that game imo....just bizarre management Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Photo-Realistic Billy 288 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 I think it's a mistake to frame this as old school vs. analytical thinking. The Dodgers are an analytical team too, and they didn't do this with Kershaw. This appears to be a uniquely Rays- or possibly Snell-related pattern. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilverBullet 2,083 Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 3 hours ago, Photo-Realistic Billy said: I think it's a mistake to frame this as old school vs. analytical thinking. The Dodgers are an analytical team too, and they didn't do this with Kershaw. This appears to be a uniquely Rays- or possibly Snell-related pattern. Well it's not as simple as old school vs analytical but it's more about just how reliant and how strict a team can become about the analytics in terms of in game decision making. With this move the Rays have shown a stubbornness, sticking to the analytics to a fault in a situation where simple baseball logic says that maybe some more human thought needs to be brought in as well. I think about Kevin Cash in this situation and I know he's an analytical manager but he was also a major league player and I think there has to naturally be plenty of moments where he wonders if he's doing the right thing sticking to the analytics. Don't forget he's considered a great clubhouse manager and team leader as well so he's clearly not just a robot spitting out front office driven moves alone. It also makes me question how much say he truly has with moves like this. Could Cash have actually left Snell in if he thought it was the right move or were his hands tied? How forceful is the Rays front office with moves like this? Despite being a good team leader is Cash ultimately just following orders as far as in game decisions? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilverBullet 2,083 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 No punishment for Justin Turner taking the field after a positive test. Manfred is the biggest pussy this side of the Mississippi River. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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