SilverBullet 2,290 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Not sure how this money gets spread out but just to confirm that Giancarlo Stanton didn't opt out of his contract which means the Marlins now owe the Yankees $30 million towards Stanton's remaining contract. If Stanton had opted out the Marlins would have had no more money owed to him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmc523 522 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, SilverBullet said: Not sure how this money gets spread out but just to confirm that Giancarlo Stanton didn't opt out of his contract which means the Marlins now owe the Yankees $30 million towards Stanton's remaining contract. If Stanton had opted out the Marlins would have had no more money owed to him. One has to assume that's not a lump sum, which at least helps a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael 2,144 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 42 minutes ago, SilverBullet said: Not sure how this money gets spread out but just to confirm that Giancarlo Stanton didn't opt out of his contract which means the Marlins now owe the Yankees $30 million towards Stanton's remaining contract. If Stanton had opted out the Marlins would have had no more money owed to him. 35 minutes ago, rmc523 said: One has to assume that's not a lump sum, which at least helps a bit. $10M in '26, '27, and '28. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Piazza31 8 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 10/28/2020 at 11:28 AM, SonOfJack said: https://www.mlb.com/news/marlins-2020-offseason-faq This should be us but we're playin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Das Texan 126 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 On 11/2/2020 at 11:50 AM, SilverBullet said: Not sure how this money gets spread out but just to confirm that Giancarlo Stanton didn't opt out of his contract which means the Marlins now owe the Yankees $30 million towards Stanton's remaining contract. If Stanton had opted out the Marlins would have had no more money owed to him. What does that have to do with this 100 million payroll unicorn of 2021? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilverBullet 2,290 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Das Texan said: What does that have to do with this 100 million payroll unicorn of 2021? Didn't think that tidbit needed a new thread and, not being sure of how the money would be spread out, I figured there was a possibility the payments could be happening in 2021 and thus may have affected the 2021 payroll. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taiwanmarlin 381 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 We have the top 5 farm system and the compete window is opening now, it's time to exchange the draft picks for some wins. It makes no sense to pass on the top FAs because of the draft picks now, the Nats to add Scherzer before the 2015 when they already have a great rotation and they become a great team since then, so what should we do ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jeffreysfishfry 154 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, taiwanmarlin said: We have the top 5 farm system and the compete window is opening now, it's time to exchange the draft picks for some wins. It makes no sense to pass on the top FAs because of the draft picks now, the Nats to add Scherzer before the 2015 when they already have a great rotation and they become a great team since then, so what should we do ? 2019 Nats rotation is worse than our current rotation. They had Scherzer and Strasburg,the same rotation that put them in last place this year. Nats didn't do anything to improve before 2019, in fact they let go of Gio and Harper. Phillies believed in the same philosophy trading for JT. They could have had Sixto, Eflin and Wheeler next year, but now we get Sixto and Phillies have to go broke to retain Realmuto. If you want to add substantial pieces through FA, I'm all for it as long as they value the farm system as an investment rather than just some inventory object. Edited November 5, 2020 by jeffreysfishfry 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taiwanmarlin 381 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just hope the vacancy in the GM/President of baseball operations won't damage the success of this off-season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael 2,144 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 4 hours ago, jeffreysfishfry said: 2019 Nats rotation is worse than our current rotation. If that's not a little homerism right there, I don't know what is! Anyways Nats didn't have Strasburg this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilverBullet 2,290 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 6 hours ago, taiwanmarlin said: Just hope the vacancy in the GM/President of baseball operations won't damage the success of this off-season. Not at all, doesn't even look like this team really even needs to officially fill that role yet if they don't want to. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taiwanmarlin 381 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, SilverBullet said: Not at all, doesn't even look like this team really even needs to officially fill that role yet if they don't want to. Yeah, I believe the members of the front office would make the right moves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jeffreysfishfry 154 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 6 hours ago, Michael said: If that's not a little homerism right there, I don't know what is! Anyways Nats didn't have Strasburg this year. Its not homerism, it's more an eye test of talent and projection. Scherzer, Strasburg, Aníbal, Corbin and Hellickson. Alcantara, Lopez, Hernandez, Sixto and/or the next 5th day starter that will emerge. Scherzer is the best of the bunch on both teams, Strasburg is a fringe ace, while and rest are garbage. Alcantara is a fringe ace, Lopez is a young Aníbal, Sixto has Scherzer potential, Hernandez, well he is better than Corbin, Aníbal or Hellickson. Yeah, Strasburg went down early, which shows how bad that rotation is after Strasburg. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael 2,144 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, jeffreysfishfry said: Its not homerism, it's more an eye test of talent and projection. Scherzer, Strasburg, Aníbal, Corbin and Hellickson. Alcantara, Lopez, Hernandez, Sixto and/or the next 5th day starter that will emerge. Scherzer is the best of the bunch on both teams, Strasburg is a fringe ace, while and rest are garbage. Alcantara is a fringe ace, Lopez is a young Aníbal, Sixto has Scherzer potential, Hernandez, well he is better than Corbin, Aníbal or Hellickson. Yeah, Strasburg went down early, which shows how bad that rotation is after Strasburg. If you think Corbin is bad ... This year he was but that's a little bit of an outlier for him. Nats would have gone harder after Harper instead of signing him if he was bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jeffreysfishfry 154 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, Michael said: If you think Corbin is bad ... This year he was but that's a little bit of an outlier for him. Nats would have gone harder after Harper instead of signing him if he was bad. He's not bad or garbage like I previously said but he is inconsistent. Anyways, if you think our current rotation doesn't compete with 2019 Nats.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael 2,144 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, jeffreysfishfry said: He's not bad or garbage like I previously said but he is inconsistent. Anyways, if you think our current rotation doesn't compete with 2019 Nats.... I'm definitely not going as far as saying Elieser is better than him, though, because he isn't. Elieser is an 18-batter maximum pitcher until he gets that change-up working. Our rotation could compete with them, sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jeffreysfishfry 154 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Michael said: I'm definitely not going as far as saying Elieser is better than him, though, because he isn't. Elieser is an 18-batter maximum pitcher until he gets that change-up working. Our rotation could compete with them, sure. I guess I have a crutch of not being meticulous when I post. I shouldn't have said our current rotation is better than 2019 Nats. I would agree that Corbin is better than Elieser. He has high upside for sure while Elieser is a solid 4th or 5th. I should have said our rotation is comparable not better. Edited November 5, 2020 by jeffreysfishfry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Photo-Realistic Billy 325 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Michael said: Elieser is an 18-batter maximum pitcher So on par with Cy Young winner Blake Snell? 😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jsprt14 4 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Lindor? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hovertical 224 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 4 hours ago, taiwanmarlin said: Yeah, I believe the members of the front office would make the right moves. "Catch our GM-less moves" doesn't really sound catchy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael 2,144 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Photo-Realistic Billy said: So on par with Cy Young winner Blake Snell? 😂 Nah Snell can get 24 sometimes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taiwanmarlin 381 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 4 hours ago, jsprt14 said: Lindor? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taiwanmarlin 381 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) In the past we have no the pieces to trade for a player like Lindor, now we have the pieces to get it done and it's just up to our decision. Edited November 6, 2020 by taiwanmarlin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jeffreysfishfry 154 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, taiwanmarlin said: In the past we have no the pieces to trade for a player like Lindor, now we have the pieces to get it done and it's just up to our decision. Cleveland would take our best prospects. They trade at high peaks and consume back with more investment. They are a blueprint on how to win consistently without spending or unloading top prospects. They haven't had a losing season since 2012. It's being done here so far. If we start trading are TOP prospects, for me, it would be birth pains of Loria all over again. Sometimes the slow pace wins the race. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael 2,144 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 49 minutes ago, jeffreysfishfry said: Cleveland would take our best prospects. They trade at high peaks and consume back with more investment. They are a blueprint on how to win consistently without spending or unloading top prospects. They haven't had a losing season since 2012. It's being done here so far. If we start trading are TOP prospects, for me, it would be birth pains of Loria all over again. Sometimes the slow pace wins the race. And this I agree with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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