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9 minutes ago, WillyumKeef said:

Alfaro couldn’t hold his weight hitting as a catcher and now we’re banking on him as an OF/3B? Move on from him

You would have a point if he didn’t raise his BA by 20 points since moving. It’s painfully obvious that catching was affecting him at the plate.

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2 hours ago, ZfromCIS said:

Play him at 3rd. He’s a completely different hitter outside of being behind the plate. He offers more power, more athleticism, and a bigger arm than BA. We need a replacement. Anybody thinking BA should be extended and is part of this teams future is insane. He’s such an overrated part of this team.

I mean there is logic to playing a catcher at 3b.

Alfaro still sucks but I guess if you want to have that experiment in ST 2022, then knock your self out with it.

It just hopefully will be in some organization thats not the Miami Marlins.

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2 hours ago, ZfromCIS said:

Because I played 3rd while being a catcher. It’s easy…as shit. Especially being a catcher. That’s what happens when you actually play baseball past little league. I played both for North Florida. Every day I played third I hit better. Less to worry about. The only position that’s easier is 1st.

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45 minutes ago, ZfromCIS said:

Every position is incredibly hard and it has its own responsibilities. It’s not like you can go and change a position when you want to. You gotta take reps at it. You gotta see how a player moves and reacts. Anybody that’s trying to compare trying Alfaro who actually can grade athletically as a 3rd baseman to a tight hipped, limited athlete like Ozuna is insane. If they have confidence in him playing LF and reacting to a ball’s position in the air then they shouldn’t have a problem giving him reps at 3rd in the spring and seeing what he can do. All I know is his improvement at the plate since moving is extremely positive. He’s risen I think 20 points when it comes to his average since then.

LF is far easier than 3b.

You dont need the quick reaction time in LF you do at 3b, but you know that since you played it so much.

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2 minutes ago, Das Texan said:

*cough* small sample size *cough*

I mean he's the same guy who said "Jeez y’all need more games to see Jesus can’t put the wood on MLB pitching?" 2 days after Jesus Sanchez was called up this year (around 50 career total MLB ABs) so it isn't too surprising.

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8 hours ago, WillyumKeef said:

Alfaro couldn’t hold his weight hitting as a catcher and now we’re banking on him as an OF/3B? Move on from him

I just have my doubts that he’ll hit so much better in LF than he did at catcher. How many cases of this are there? He’d need to deviate pretty far from his performance the last few years to start in the OF

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9 hours ago, SonOfJack said:

I mean he's the same guy who said "Jeez y’all need more games to see Jesus can’t put the wood on MLB pitching?" 2 days after Jesus Sanchez was called up this year (around 50 career total MLB ABs) so it isn't too surprising.

He’s batting .235 with a 28 % k rate and a .1 WAR. He grades as the worst starting OF in baseball.

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9 hours ago, Das Texan said:

I mean there is logic to playing a catcher at 3b.

Alfaro still sucks but I guess if you want to have that experiment in ST 2022, then knock your self out with it.

It just hopefully will be in some organization thats not the Miami Marlins.

Being an outfielder has never been easier than playing a corner and if you think so then you shouldn’t be commenting about baseball. This isn’t tee ball when you put the fattest kid in RF.

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8 hours ago, Das Texan said:

*cough* small sample size *cough*

Was the year he batted over .260 a small sample size too? PS if he keeps hitting then he’ll probably hit .260 again.

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9 hours ago, SonOfJack said:

Just leave BA at 3rd, and sign an OF rather than putting some project at 3B and shifting BA to the OF. I'm sure the Marlins would like this idea though since it'd be cheaper.

Or ship BA out of here because he fucking sucks like the rest of this team. Move an aging Miggy to 3rd and sign a SS.

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10 hours ago, SonOfJack said:

This is only slightly above the "I'm a pro at MLB The Show" card. I fully believe most MLB players "can play" 3B, but can they play it well enough to be an asset at 3B? We don't need a warm body there, we need a dependable fielder there.

Pretty sure 3B at North Florida and 3B in MLB are slightly different for what it is worth.

You’re talking about talent level. I’m talking about what it takes to play the position. Way different. Could I play one on a major league field? No. When I talked with the Angels to sign as a UFA back in 2017 they wanted me strictly behind the plate and told me to stop taking reps at 3rd that offseason.  3rd base was nothing more than to give me a day off and keep my bat in the lineup. A guy like Alfaro though that has a huge arm and is a really good and fluid athlete can absolutely do it at this and it’ll just add another thing he can do. He already plays the corners and 1st. He’s batting .248 as of last night. You’re not going to find a bench guy that can do that at his price due to ball club control.

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5 hours ago, ZfromCIS said:

He’s batting .235 with a 28 % k rate and a .1 WAR. He grades as the worst starting OF in baseball.

Oh so you're back to giving up on him. Because when he started to get hot, you said you were wrong about him. It is hard to keep up with your ever changing scouting reports. I mean if Jesus' BA goes up 20 points in the next 2 weeks you'll be a fan of him again I guess.

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3 hours ago, SonOfJack said:

Oh so you're back to giving up on him. Because when he started to get hot, you said you were wrong about him. It is hard to keep up with your ever changing scouting reports. I mean if Jesus' BA goes up 20 points in the next 2 weeks you'll be a fan of him again I guess.

Do you always make assumptions based on nothing? When do I say in my post that I don’t believe he can get better and I’ve given up on him? YOU brought up that I said he can’t hit well. I provide with legitimate facts that show you he’s not hitting well. YOUR response is that I’m back to giving up on him because you couldn’t counter act that I proved he’s not hitting well. If you wanted to be fair you would mention that I hate our hitting development which you’ve quoted and liked those very posts but because you’re butthurt you forgot about all that.

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14 hours ago, EricOwens! said:

I don’t want to see Alfaro next year, even as a backup C. Same goes for Bronson and Isan. Don’t want to see their faces. We need a clean start. 

What about Brinson?

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On 8/29/2021 at 6:42 AM, Michael said:

I think I'd be fine having Alfaro as the backup catcher. If he's playing once a week rather than 4 to 7 times a week, he might be more bearable.

He does have a fantastic arm for a catcher, but his primary role is a as a receiver. I'd rather have Leon as the backup.

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On 8/29/2021 at 3:03 PM, ZfromCIS said:

Play him at 3rd. He’s a completely different hitter outside of being behind the plate. He offers more power, more athleticism, and a bigger arm than BA. We need a replacement. Anybody thinking BA should be extended and is part of this teams future is insane. He’s such an overrated part of this team.

BA has had 1 down year in his career. He is just as likely to rebound offensively as Kyle Seager was after 2018. If it wasn't for the albatross contract, more people would recognize that Seager has been a quality bat the past couple of seasons. Besides, when improving the offense you need to replace the worst spots first, C and OF. Adding 3B to the mix positions needing replacement is insane. If you add a 3B, you move BA to RF. But besides one of the top tier guys (Bryant / Arenado) which are longshots, I say we should stick with BA at 3B.

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1 minute ago, FishFan95 said:

BA has had 1 down year in his career. He is just as likely to rebound offensively as Kyle Seager was after 2018. If it wasn't for the albatross contract, more people would recognize that Seager has been a quality bat the past couple of seasons. Besides, when improving the offense you need to replace the worst spots first, C and OF. Adding 3B to the mix positions needing replacement is insane. If you add a 3B, you move BA to RF. But besides one of the top tier guys (Bryant / Arenado) which are longshots, I say we should stick with BA at 3B.

If fact, BA probably would have rebounded at the same time as Cooper if he didn't get injured. Cooper was another guy that people wanted to move on from after like a month and a half. I sware, you folks are impulsive as hell when it comes to making baseball moves.

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