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Fangraphs: 2019 Miami Marlins Elegy

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It might be a bit surprising given that the Marlins are 51-93, but there were still positive developments for Miami in 2019. 

The Marlins’ challenges on the field are significant, but the most difficult battle they face is one of reputation.

Given the Marlin’s history, any pleas for fans to come to the games so that the owners can invest in the team will likely fall on deaf ears. 

That’s the fundamental challenge the Marlins face and it’s one so large that it almost renders whatever trades or signings they make irrelevant in comparison. The team will have to build a consistent winner and then somehow convince a damaged fanbase that this time is different. 

 

This is really well said. A refreshingly realistic take on the challenge of winning over the fanbase. 

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55 minutes ago, SilverBullet said:

This is really well said. A refreshingly realistic take on the challenge of winning over the fanbase. 

in that same line of thought - I loved the comparison made here....

 

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Baseball is one of the few industries in which business owners are generally able to plead with their customers to buy their product now so that there can be a better product in the future. Can you imagine building a restaurant and telling people “If you buy our terrible food, we won’t have to serve canned vegetables next month!”

 

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1 hour ago, hovertical said:

In that same line of thought - I loved the comparison made here....

Yes awesome comparison and so true. Even as someone who buys into the rebuild I can understand how weird it is to be told things are gonna get better while watching things still look like shit. 

Actually it shows more and more why the fanbase needs to be more exposed to the positive signs that go beyond the current on field MLB record because it's very easy to say this isn't working when watching the team inch towards 100 losses especially if you aren't presented with the improvements to the farm and other factors like that. 

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A better analogy would have been: “in the future we will serve you delicious, freshly homegrown vegetables for years to come.  But until those plants grow larger and bear fruit please eat our moldy leftovers”

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1 hour ago, SilverBullet said:

Yes awesome comparison and so true. Even as someone who buys into the rebuild I can understand how weird it is to be told things are gonna get better while watching things still look like shit. 

Actually it shows more and more why the fanbase needs to be more exposed to the positive signs that go beyond the current on field MLB record because it's very easy to say this isn't working when watching the team inch towards 100 losses especially if you aren't presented with the improvements to the farm and other factors like that. 

While actual fans do care about the farm system and other differences, the casual "fan" doesn't really give a damn about those things. These are the people that have been missing and will continue to be missing from the stands when the product on the field is crap. The ONLY way to bring those people in is to consistently put a great team on the field that creates a "this is the place to be seen" vibe. There's really no other way to pull those people in other than building some real dominant clubs and that's going to likely take the owners being willing to lose some fairly significant amounts of money in the process to get to that point.  This is also why I kind of still say it's fair to rip the Marlins new group because despite taking a different approach in terms of drafting and player development - they haven't yet reached the stage where they're required to take those heavy financial hits and push forward where the other owners have refused to go for any extended period of time so at this juncture they really aren't all that different than previous owners in terms of what has been accomplished.   I sincerely hope they do make that earnest effort when the time comes though. I love my team and would literally give up following baseball before I'd switch allegiances. 

 

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The team is doing a lot of things that a normal team does in rebuilding, but they’ve done nothing to answer the biggest question: what happens after the rebuild is successful? Will the team invest in the franchise’s continued success where previous owners failed to or will this simply be the latest incident of the team’s limited fanbase having the rug pulled out from under them?

This one kind of annoys me. That question can't be answered yet because the rebuild has yet to be successful. The obvious hope is that the team spends but if we end up hitting on so many draft picks, even that won't be necessary until about 2025, which would be amazing.

Other than that, good read.

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2 hours ago, hovertical said:

While actual fans do care about the farm system and other differences, the casual "fan" doesn't really give a damn about those things.

But that's why they should be more exposed to those things because they matter in the overall picture of the organization even if those things haven't translated to the MLB team yet. 

There are still people who think the organization is in the same place they were when new ownership came in two years ago and that's absolutely not the case. There are positive signs and the casual fans should be presented these signs as a way of saying "We're not there yet but we've done this and this and this and hopefully are on the right track." 

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