Time to bring up The Age Old Discussion on School Vouchers...

 

I support them for the fact that there's way too much of a gap between The Rich and The Poor in this country and I don't think their's any debate on this. It's because of the inability for some to provide the best education for some of the more gifted kids.

 

What's your stance?

Pretty much the short answer: "it can't hurt."

 

Seriously, the money they are putting into it isn't being taken away from money already given to the public school system (which is a big misconception that voters have).

It can hurt. The education system is highly bureaucratic(sp?) and siphering money out of it is only going to make things more inefficient, more costly, and hurt the already crappy and inefficient schools.

 

There is no way to tulry solve this problem unless there was no socioeconomic inequalities, which is impossible.

 

My plan: bus the best ranked urban students to the subburbs and take those same busses and bus back the worse subburban students to the city. That way the wiggers can hang out with the n*****s and the smart people in the city won't be intimidated and have their gifts unleashed.

 

I'm very serious.

so whatever happened to stop wasting resources and such?

 

 

nah we cant do that, that might eliminate a few jobs.

bussing dont work.

bussing dont work.

not when you take city kids and bus them with other city kids (like busing blacks and italians in my Dad's day within nyc.) I mean you bus smart people, it helped chris rock.

yes, private schools are proven better. Washington DC is the hotspot for voucher discussion because Congress has discussed experimenting with the DC schools.

 

DC public schools' average SAT score is 799 (to be fair, the national average is 1026, but that combines ALL students, public school and private). DC religious private schools average an 1190. DC independent schools is a 1218.

 

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20030830-104300-5031r.htm

In my teaching courses I hear that one shouldn't "blame the parents are upbringing." That's BS. I remember how kids since elementary school who did horribly did so because the parents weren't active participants. Granted some are born smarter than others, but when upbrining doesn't stress hard work and the idea that one should take responsibility for their work, we get a bunch of lazy ass students.

 

It is all about upbringing. All the Jewish people I know with children that aren't even smart do not even consider the possibility that their children won't have further education. However, Christians tend to focus more so (relatively) on other things like sports and less so on schoolwork and the idea of pursuing further education does not have the same perceived importance. There all also economic factors, such as better areas (better as in more money) have more grant funds and an inequitable amount of money from property taxes to fund better schools. That's why the problem is socioeconomic, I don't see school vouchers fixing that whatsoever. However, a lot of parents got to get their priorities straight. Further education is the goal, with the moneys and loans available to everyone (FAFSA)and the ability to not spend your money on crap (so if you make a decent amount you can bring your kids to college), there is no excuse not to get your children more so educated. However, it is not further education that's the key, but the perceived importance of education in a family.

 

If our society is retrogressing like so (getting lazier and more accepting of stupidity and the antithesis of rugged individualism), we will only perform worse so in school. I think society is the problem. My grandmother, who grew up speaking entirely italian learned english in public school and has a great vocabulary. She went to a crappy shcool, but society's standards were different. Throughout life I have observed two things: people who want to work hard and people who are lazy. I have seen perfectly smart people in elementary, middle, high schools and college become "Stupid" because they lose the drive to work. Hard work isn't perceived highly in our society. Half of society just thinks the government should pay for their every need and make sure they get hired for every job and the other half sees those who work hard as "nerdy" even. At least when it comes to school work, I would think this does not apply to butchers.

 

Now I am going off on a tangent, but that's why I fear the growing leftist economic theories world wide. Communism is dead, but western europe and america are definitely socialistic. People don't want to work hard because there is less incentive and or they think it is always someone else's fault for their failures. That's bull crap. If you are not smart and poor, you can work hard and do many things and be successful. There's no shame in being a butcher or an electrician. There's money to be had. But that's "hard dirty work" and people want to avoid it.

 

We live in a society that hates to work, and the decay of schools that some say vouchers are the solution are really decaying because of the socioeconomic circumstances that exist there.

 

I'll step of my soap box now.