Why can't they pressure Sherman, too?

10 hours ago, Michael said:

Why can't they pressure Sherman, too?

Hopefully he’s next. I think since fish already have the stadium tho..

The owners of the Marlins and Rays should do a swap and buy each other’s teams. Sherman can go to Tampa and bring Bendix with him. Marlins can get Rays owner and FO staff.

11 hours ago, Michael said:

Why can't they pressure Sherman, too?

Yeah, it'd be nice if they'd switch to Sherman next.

I think this is primarily because of the stadium issue, though. The league thought they had it settled with the deal, and now the Rays are trying to not honor their end of absorbing cost overruns.

On 3/10/2025 at 8:30 AM, rmc523 said:

Yeah, it'd be nice if they'd switch to Sherman next.

I think this is primarily because of the stadium issue, though. The league thought they had it settled with the deal, and now the Rays are trying to not honor their end of absorbing cost overruns.

this is 100% about the stadium or else Sherman would also be pressured to sell - instead MLB seems to not care that Sherman is running a more skinflint operation than the Rays are (with much less success).

14 hours ago, hovertical said:

this is 100% about the stadium or else Sherman would also be pressured to sell - instead MLB seems to not care that Sherman is running a more skinflint operation than the Rays are (with much less success).

Yeah, I've read that Rays people (or maybe it's just fans?) are pointing to the Marlins' lack of success of "why force us to sell, but not them"......I say why not both lol.

Rays stadium cancelled. They as good as gone from TBA

Florida is lucky to have two MLB franchise, one knows how to win but don't know how to have a new ballpark, one knows how to have a new ballpark but don't know how to win.

2 hours ago, pollythewog said:

Rays stadium cancelled. They as good as gone from TBA

Stupid.

Per reports, the Rays were required as part of the deal to pay overages, and they decided they didn't want to lol.

6 hours ago, rmc523 said:

Yeah, I've read that Rays people (or maybe it's just fans?) are pointing to the Marlins' lack of success of "why force us to sell, but not them"......I say why not both lol.

100% agreed. there's no reason why Sherman shouldn't be forced into selling after the last two offseasons now especially (basing this off a playoff appearance and then total detonation of the team) when coupled with his lack of spending in all other seasons to boot. Just wait until Sandy is a Yankee in the coming days too. I can't wait for our shitty farm system to move from like 18th overall to 17th.

9 hours ago, rmc523 said:

Stupid.

Per reports, the Rays were required as part of the deal to pay overages, and they decided they didn't want to lol.

Sternberg cheaper than Sherman ?

3 hours ago, MarlinsToSpend said:

Sternberg cheaper than Sherman ?

There was a report before this latest stadium announcement that MLB and Manfred want a team in the Tampa Bay area and do not want them to move. They are almost certainly going to push Sternberg out and then work out some kind of new stadium deal with a new owner. But the Trop is still a mess and I think these claims that they will be ready to play there again by opening day next year seem wildly optimistic.

On 3/13/2025 at 3:34 PM, rmc523 said:

Stupid.

Per reports, the Rays were required as part of the deal to pay overages, and they decided they didn't want to lol.

You gotta love how regular people are beholden to Uber’s terms when their daughter agrees to Uber Eats’ terms, but billion dollar entities just decide they don’t want to comply with heavily negotiated contracts.

On 3/15/2025 at 5:36 PM, FutureGM said:

There was a report before this latest stadium announcement that MLB and Manfred want a team in the Tampa Bay area and do not want them to move. They are almost certainly going to push Sternberg out and then work out some kind of new stadium deal with a new owner. But the Trop is still a mess and I think these claims that they will be ready to play there again by opening day next year seem wildly optimistic.

St. Petersburg officials have said they don't want to deal with this ownership group anymore. The talk is getting a new group, and trying to work something out in Tampa proper.

Rays Proposed Lease Extension At Tropicana Field - MLB Trade Rumors

Lol at Stu's latest proposal...

John Romano and Colleen Wright of The Tampa Bay Times report that the Rays, within the past month, have floated the idea of renovating Tropicana Field beyond the roof repair. Under that plan, the team, city and county would contribute an equal sum — reportedly $200MM each — for large-scale renovations of their longtime home park. According to the report, the Rays would have agreed to a 10-year lease extension to remain at the Trop through 2038 in that scenario.

On 3/13/2025 at 3:34 PM, rmc523 said:

Stupid.

Per reports, the Rays were required as part of the deal to pay overages, and they decided they didn't want to lol.

Rays wanted Tropicana repaired and county decided against it. Rays were forced to find a temp home and chose steinbreener field, which the local politicians took as a slight to St Pete instead of playing in Phillies ST Park.

Out of pettiness, the county commisioners decided to delay the new stadium vote but agree to fix Tropicana at a massive expense. The rays said delaying the vote added over 200 million in overages because of the later finished date. Rays told the commisioners it makes no sense to fix tropicana when the money can go towards a new park and keep the original timeline.

County commisioners then reopened the vote and then decided not to fix tropicana OR approve the already agreed upon deal for the new park.

Rays were flabbergasted and the pettiness, and decided to try to force the issue and get the vote for the new park back on the calender as soon as they can. Commisioners denied that, and the overages that the rays would have to pay were non negotiable. Rays decided to tell ST Pete to pound sand, your screwing the rays out of pettiness and its obvious you dont want the deal.

The sad part in all this is that it makes the Rays look like scumbags, but the county commisioners decided to play games and present themselves as for the people after a hurricane, meanwhile they have done nothing since.

Now the county is rushing to fix tropicana in time because if they dont, the Rays can up and leave without breaking their contract.

ST Pete commisioners are playing stupid games and are about to win the stupidest of prizes. The sad part is, this NEW stadium drama all has to do with them deciding they didnt want to pay the insurance for Tropicana field and had to find out the financing to fix it and want to stick it to the Rays and Sternberg now.

4 hours ago, Piazza31 said:

Rays were forced to find a temp home and chose steinbreener field, which the local politicians took as a slight to St Pete instead of playing in Phillies ST Park.

This bit doesn't make sense. It's basically the same thing.

2 hours ago, Michael said:

This bit doesn't make sense. It's basically the same thing.

Well I’m not a huge expert on the area and haven’t really been following the story, but I can tell you that Baycare Park is in Clearwater which is in Pinellas County which is the same county that the city of St. Petersburg is located.

So if the issue is local politicians feeling slighted, it would seem that maybe Pinellas County representatives who wanted to keep the Rays playing in Pinellas County instead of them moving to Steinbrenner Field in neighboring Hillsborough County where the city of Tampa is located. Perhaps the thinking was to bring more revenue to Clearwater area and Pinellas County in general is part of the reason.

In the grand scheme of things overall it’s not a huge deal for MLB and Rays fans as the Rays still will get to play in the general Tampa Bay area as opposed to playing the year in somewhere like Orlando or even another state. But you know for the local city or county people I’m sure it’s a big deal that they moved to the neighboring county even if it’s just 20 miles away.

Edited March 18Mar 18 by SirFishFan

9 hours ago, SirFishFan said:

Well I’m not a huge expert on the area and haven’t really been following the story, but I can tell you that Baycare Park is in Clearwater which is in Pinellas County which is the same county that the city of St. Petersburg is located.

So if the issue is local politicians feeling slighted, it would seem that maybe Pinellas County representatives who wanted to keep the Rays playing in Pinellas County instead of them moving to Steinbrenner Field in neighboring Hillsborough County where the city of Tampa is located. Perhaps the thinking was to bring more revenue to Clearwater area and Pinellas County in general is part of the reason.

In the grand scheme of things overall it’s not a huge deal for MLB and Rays fans as the Rays still will get to play in the general Tampa Bay area as opposed to playing the year in somewhere like Orlando or even another state. But you know for the local city or county people I’m sure it’s a big deal that they moved to the neighboring county even if it’s just 20 miles away.

That's petty at its finest, IMO, because they'd have the team back permanently after a year, 2 tops, but instead, they're allowing the whole thing to fall apart?

I'd imagine they'll regret cancelling that insurance policy (I'm sure they already do) because now it'll not only cost them money for fixing the Trop, but now it's likely they'll lose the team, its revenue, AND they'll still be left with an ancient undeveloped trop that'll be vacant in another 2 years.

That said, the team is NOT at all innocent in this debacle either.....

16 hours ago, SirFishFan said:

Well I’m not a huge expert on the area and haven’t really been following the story, but I can tell you that Baycare Park is in Clearwater which is in Pinellas County which is the same county that the city of St. Petersburg is located.

So if the issue is local politicians feeling slighted, it would seem that maybe Pinellas County representatives who wanted to keep the Rays playing in Pinellas County instead of them moving to Steinbrenner Field in neighboring Hillsborough County where the city of Tampa is located. Perhaps the thinking was to bring more revenue to Clearwater area and Pinellas County in general is part of the reason.

In the grand scheme of things overall it’s not a huge deal for MLB and Rays fans as the Rays still will get to play in the general Tampa Bay area as opposed to playing the year in somewhere like Orlando or even another state. But you know for the local city or county people I’m sure it’s a big deal that they moved to the neighboring county even if it’s just 20 miles away.

16 hours ago, SirFishFan said:

Well I’m not a huge expert on the area and haven’t really been following the story, but I can tell you that Baycare Park is in Clearwater which is in Pinellas County which is the same county that the city of St. Petersburg is located.

So if the issue is local politicians feeling slighted, it would seem that maybe Pinellas County representatives who wanted to keep the Rays playing in Pinellas County instead of them moving to Steinbrenner Field in neighboring Hillsborough County where the city of Tampa is located. Perhaps the thinking was to bring more revenue to Clearwater area and Pinellas County in general is part of the reason.

In the grand scheme of things overall it’s not a huge deal for MLB and Rays fans as the Rays still will get to play in the general Tampa Bay area as opposed to playing the year in somewhere like Orlando or even another state. But you know for the local city or county people I’m sure it’s a big deal that they moved to the neighboring county even if it’s just 20 miles away.

Thats a major part of it. It's the little brother syndrome pinellas has with hillsborough and always has had. They view tampa as an enemy, not a sibling.

6 hours ago, rmc523 said:

That's petty at its finest, IMO, because they'd have the team back permanently after a year, 2 tops, but instead, they're allowing the whole thing to fall apart?

I'd imagine they'll regret cancelling that insurance policy (I'm sure they already do) because now it'll not only cost them money for fixing the Trop, but now it's likely they'll lose the team, its revenue, AND they'll still be left with an ancient undeveloped trop that'll be vacant in another 2 years.

I heard on Samson's podcast, there is a clause in the stadium contract that if the team misses any time in tropicana park- the time is added to the back end of the contract.

Technically, they have three more years in tropicana no matter what and when. If they don't fix the roof until 2030, the earliest the rays can leave is 2033.

The rays want the ballpark fixed as soon as possible if they arent going to buld a new one for them. So they want the ballpark finished in time for next year. There is talk the Yankees won't allow them to play in Steinbrenner field past this year. This year was a courtesy because of the hurricane.

45 minutes ago, Piazza31 said:

I heard on Samson's podcast, there is a clause in the stadium contract that if the team misses any time in tropicana park- the time is added to the back end of the contract.

Technically, they have three more years in tropicana no matter what and when. If they don't fix the roof until 2030, the earliest the rays can leave is 2033.

The rays want the ballpark fixed as soon as possible if they arent going to buld a new one for them. So they want the ballpark finished in time for next year. There is talk the Yankees won't allow them to play in Steinbrenner field past this year. This year was a courtesy because of the hurricane.

I’d imagine there has to be some sort of good faith component to it too…the city can’t drag it out that long without being in breach of contract, I’d imagine