January 9, 200422 yr I was against it originally, but I like it now. It is the best we will get in the immediate future (meaning in the next 3-5 years), so why not do it and tryy it again in a decade or so? Location is alot better than JRS plus the team stays in SoFla. Isn't that what counts? Location better the JRS? You've got to be kidding. I suppose that's true only if you live within walking distance to the OB. For the vast majority of us that have to drive (or can drive), it sucks. *To the tune of the Mickey Mouse Club song* M-e-t-r-o.....R-a-i-l! Good for some. I like to tailgate and would have a tough time bringing my grill and cooler on the Metrorail.....or setting it up in someone's backyard.
January 9, 200422 yr I was against it originally, but I like it now. It is the best we will get in the immediate future (meaning in the next 3-5 years), so why not do it and tryy it again in a decade or so? Location is alot better than JRS plus the team stays in SoFla. Isn't that what counts? Location better the JRS? You've got to be kidding. I suppose that's true only if you live within walking distance to the OB. For the vast majority of us that have to drive (or can drive), it sucks. *To the tune of the Mickey Mouse Club song* M-e-t-r-o.....R-a-i-l! Good for some. I like to tailgate and would have a tough time bringing my grill and cooler on the Metrorail.....or setting it up in someone's backyard. Caja China :shifty
January 9, 200422 yr 3 Good: - The Marlins can use Miami Beach's $73M to help build the stadium because it will be in Miami-Dade county - Saves the city more money than any other site, or completly seperate stadiums - Better chance of walk-up, or rather walk/drive/metro over, sales Bad: - From my point of view, UM is getting too much and it could save all those involved a lot of money and time if theyd agree to someone like Bank One Ballpark - With two stadiums on the lot, where's the parking? The city will have to buy out/condemn many houses to build parking lots and expand roads. If not close to the stadium (in the middle of an area of many possible baseball fans) then somewhere else with parkign lots, buses and a metrorail stop. A great chance at public backlash. - Far from present fan base
January 9, 200422 yr 3 Good: - The Marlins can use Miami Beach's $73M to help build the stadium because it will be in Miami-Dade county - Saves the city more money than any other site, or completly seperate stadiums - Better chance of walk-up, or rather walk/drive/metro over, sales Bad: - From my point of view, UM is getting too much and it could save all those involved a lot of money and time if theyd agree to someone like Bank One Ballpark - With two stadiums on the lot, where's the parking? The city will have to buy out/condemn many houses to build parking lots and expand roads. If not close to the stadium (in the middle of an area of many possible baseball fans) then somewhere else with parkign lots, buses and a metrorail stop. A great chance at public backlash. - Far from present fan base What fan base? The 8,500 people that came to games in April and May? Sure, the season ticket holders live in Broward and PBC. Why? PPS is closer to those areas. Give Miami a chance.
January 9, 200422 yr It is the best we will get in the immediate future (meaning in the next 3-5 years), so why not do it and tryy it again in a decade or so? you can't try again in 10 years. the team will be paying this off for decades. this isn't a temporary solution; it'll be the new permanent home of the florida marlins..
January 9, 200422 yr Bad: - From my point of view, UM is getting too much and it could save all those involved a lot of money and time if theyd agree to someone like Bank One Ballpark UM is getting too much? UM is losing OB money already earmarked for them in this dual stadium deal. how are they getting too much?
January 9, 200422 yr This plan stinks , Miami doesnt deserve this team , I have said this before and ill say it again . The Marlins deserve a Stadium all by it self . Come on people no other team has brought 2 world titles to its fans in 11 years of exsistance . If Miami were willing to build a Bayfront park like it was supposed to , i would be happy , but they have renigged so many times it makes me sick . Those Miami Polititians only tell you want you want to hear , and when it comes down to it their word is as good as chewed bubble gum . Marlins need to move out of Miami into the arms of Their real family , Broward or Palm Beach.
January 9, 200422 yr This plan stinks , Miami doesnt deserve this team , I have said this before and ill say it again . The Marlins deserve a Stadium all by it self . Come on people no other team has brought 2 world titles to its fans in 11 years of exsistance . If Miami were willing to build a Bayfront park like it was supposed to , i would be happy , but they have renigged so many times it makes me sick . Those Miami Polititians only tell you want you want to hear , and when it comes down to it their word is as good as chewed bubble gum . Marlins need to move out of Miami into the arms of Their real family , Broward or Palm Beach. Right, so you can do what you have done to the Panthers? Look at all the empty seats in the arena next time you watch a home game.
January 9, 200422 yr Bad: - From my point of view, UM is getting too much and it could save all those involved a lot of money and time if theyd agree to someone like Bank One Ballpark UM is getting too much? UM is losing OB money already earmarked for them in this dual stadium deal. how are they getting too much? A private university profiting off a public stadium.
January 9, 200422 yr IMHO, mostly everyone in Florida is freaking bandwagoner. Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Orlando, Tampa... so... Move to Broward...
January 9, 200422 yr A private university profiting off a public stadium Are you trying to tell me that the city doesn't make any profit when 70,000+ visitors come to see the canes play? bs This is just my opinion, but this looks absolutely horrendous. Shouldn't the new ob look at least remotely like a football field? The most succesful team in the last 20 years is going to play in that crap? Goodbye home field advantage. The baseball stadium looks goofy too. What is with one base line's seats being taller than the other. If you are going to do something this expensive, why not just find some more money and build an actual baseball stadium? What exactly is the price difference if we where to just build an open air, no roof stadium somewhere else and leave the ob as it is? If you are going to spend a crapload of money on a stadium, why not just go all out and get something that doesn't look retarded? Im not understanding the ob Idea at all.
January 9, 200422 yr For 6 days in the fall? Not to the tune of renovating a stadium only for them to use. Remember in the same meeting they rejected making the stadium viable for a soccer franchise too.
January 9, 200422 yr What do you mean "make it viable for a soccer team?" How is it not viable for one right now? I'm not sure but don't they already play soccer in the ob? Who cares about soccer anyway? why are we talking about it?
January 9, 200422 yr All I know was it was rejected so politicians could please you little 'Canes fans at the expense of public tax dollars.
January 9, 200422 yr So the north side of the football OB will have the "Tower", presumably with luxury suites etc. But just wait until those wealthy Canes alumni realize their seats in the Tower look almost directly into the sun............. ouch.
January 9, 200422 yr So the north side of the football OB will have the "Tower", presumably with luxury suites etc. But just wait until those wealthy Canes alumni realize their seats in the Tower look almost directly into the sun............. ouch. It is the south tower (one where tv cameras are). The tower thing is my only problem. Have two seperate buidlings with the OB keeping it's usual bowl form and the ballpark the way it is.
January 9, 200422 yr I doubt it. The roof would add $100 million to the project. This can add another $25 million max.
January 9, 200422 yr There won't be a team here in 5-10 years without a roof. There won't be a team in 4-5 w/o a stadium.
January 9, 200422 yr Guys, I really like this proposal. For all you know God is a Marlins fan and doesn't send rain on home gamedays.
January 9, 200422 yr I know what the weird seating decks reminds me of, the old Met in Bloomington, MN where the Twins and Vikings used to call home.
January 9, 200422 yr I doubt it. The roof would add $100 million to the project. This can add another $25 million max. No, I mean seperating the stadiums. Sharing the concession stands, equipment closets and bathrooms for one side of each stadium saves about $150M over seperating the stadiums entirely.
January 10, 200422 yr As is, I would probably rate it low. However, there's a chance (albeit slight) that they can alter the design a bit so that it would look more like a decent ballpark. I want to see if they can manage to do that.
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