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21 hours ago, EricWiener1970 said:
I went to the Marlins game for my 26th birthday and Al Leiter pitched a no-hitter.
Or the day Chris Hammond hit my seat with a grand slam while I was getting a drink
I was supposed to be at that Leiter game but was sick. A group of my friends was there. The only no-hitter I've seen live was Halladay's against us
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Easy one for me.
September 16, 1997. Marlins are losing to Colorado 6-5 in the bottom of the 9th. Rockies closer Jerry DiPoto comes in and immediately gets in trouble. But he gets a couple outs, and after a walk Bobby Bonilla comes to the plate. Bonilla falls behind in the count, but starts fouling off pitch after pitch. On the 10th pitch of the at bat, well, just watch the video of the at-bat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgI9u6C0wnk
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At this point mediocrity would be an improvement...
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Clearly the correct answer here is Yunel Escobar
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The real problem we have is that the Braves are 7th on that last and they have a massive head start with the guys already in the majors. Going to take a LOT for us to be competitive with them even by 2021
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Haven't the marlins been saying they don't need to trade starlin to bring up Isan since they could put him at 2b/SS/3b/LF if need be? I'm sure it's a plight to limit any perceived desperation to trade Castro but maybe that's why he didn't mention it.
But wouldn’t he be kinda in the way at all those positions? I mean, he’s not a SS. We have too many 3B already. No room in LF really either. So, either they think he’s Zobrist and can play somewhere else each day or he’s a really expensive utility player.
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It’s not DuseReports fault. He turned in his article before the trade. He was covering the deal last night
Right but not explaining that the main reason to trade Castro is to open 2B for Diaz is pretty lame. Probably removed for space by editors
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Today the Sun-Sentinel made me laugh. Before 10 pm last night, Romo was traded to the Twins, but the Sun-sentinel got put to bed so early that they still put him in their “5 Marlins who might be traded” article. They give a “why he could be traded” and a “why he might not be traded” for each player, and for Castro, they don’t mention Isan Diaz. As much I want to rip Dusenbury, it’s clearly the editors who are to blame for this nonsense article...
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Joking reply: #CheapJeter not paying for it to be watered or taken care of.
Actual reply: Not entirely certain, maybe too much rain of late on it?
I’m all for #CheapJeter jokes, don’t get me wrong, but it’s embarassing
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Out here in CF - any reason why the grass looks so bad in the OF?
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Tonight (6/17) was the 13th time the Marlins have been shut out this year. They're now on pace to be shut out 30 times this year, which is a few shy of the record...
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Phew ! we won't break the record.
...and then they got shutout again last night...
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The most times a Major League Baseball team has ever been shut out in a season was 33, the 1908 St. Louis Cardinals.
The Marlins have been shut out 8 times in 40 games, That's a pace of 32.4.
The '08 Cardinals finished 49-105, which was 6 games better than their Pythagorean projection of 43-111. The Cardinals scored 372 runs, and allowed 626.
Through 40 games, the Marlins have scored 105 and have given up 200, which is a pace of 425 for, 810 against. The Pythagorean projection has them at 9-31,
The Wikipedia page on the Cardinals of that era says "With limited financial resources, the club could ill-afford to sign the amount of the caliber of players required to field a competitive team."
Ha ha ha...
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When you're "rebuilding", "tanking", going through "the process", or whatever you want to call it, the only thing that means anything is to find out who can play and who can't. Sometimes the guys who can play are those you don't expect - there wasn't much of a reason to expect Realmuto to become one of the best catchers in baseball, and Dontrelle Willis was sent to us when the Cubs wouldn't agree to send the guy we wanted in one of the numerous salary-dumps of the John Henry era. Sometimes the guys you think are going to be great just aren't (I'm looking at you, Jeremy Hermida). If Alcantara doesn't work out, so what - there's a number of other guys waiting for their shot. And if none of those guys work out, either, then there's the draft and future trades. At some point this Summer, Starlin Castro will be dealt to a contender with a need in the IF - maybe Tampa - to make room for Isan Diaz. This team is NOT in a hurry, so they have time to assemble a group of 15-20 guys who can play.
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I take it Castro is the backup SS for now
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That guy wearing #42 pitching for Baltimore pitched pretty good today - he looked kinda familiar
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How did they lose money? I thought this team was just profiting left and right because they've been saving money on cutting players like Dietrich and Straily and on keeping the roof open during games?
Consider the interest / principal payment on $400 million in debt. Remember that Sherman et al didn't pay $1.2 billion for the Marlins out of pocket - they paid $800 million and assumed $400 million in debt.
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This video was very weird. No mention of the fact that we almost lost baseball when Loria bought the team and Henry got his upgrade to Boston . There was also virtually no mention of how the team was put back together by Beinfest other than Miggy and Beckett, or how Henry also gave up on Florida like Huizenga did when he also was denied his stadium. To be honest, even though Loria is rightly reviled here, it must be said that we still have Major League baseball (well, a bunch of kids who may be good some day) because Loria chose to save us rather than stay in Montreal. When Henry was getting the upgrade, Loria was given a choice - you can keep the team in Montreal and we'll move the Marlins to Washington, or you can have the Marlins and we'll move the Expos to Washington. So, thanks, Jeff!
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Maybe he can hire a hypnotist - “Losing is a disease - as contagious as syphilis”
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Actually, it isn't just Jeter who doesn't care about winning. It's about half the league. And some teams want to win, just not that much. A guy who won the Cy Young Award a few years ago and is only 31 can't get a decent contract. At least a half-dozen teams are actively trying to lose, so that a) they can get better draft picks, b) they can stockpile kids who may some day become the nucleus of a competitive team, and c) save a lot of money. A lot of people think that the Marlins are doing the right thing because this is the system we have. I say the whole system sucks.
But yeah, Jeter doesn't give a crap about whether we win this year, probably next year, and maybe even 2021.
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The previous regime was also fudging attendance numbers.
Maybe so, but I can tell you that at least for the first half of the season people were definitely showing up
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People still didn't show up much in 2012 with a brand new ballpark and a few big name free agents signed.
Actually the team averaged over 27K in 2012, with a 94-loss team. I should know - I had a 1/4 season ticket in the upper deck. One fire-sale later, and they were under 20K for 2013...
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The Marlins won’t sniff 77 wins this year. They were projected to win 65-66 games before their best player was traded.
With that said, to say you’ll be very surprised if the Marlins lose less than 95 games 3 or 4 years from now is just dumb. This team in 2021 will either make the playoffs or be on the cusp of the playoffs. They’re going to get yet another high draft pick this year and make another substantial IFA signing.
Right now our best prospect is a 20-year old kid who had some elbow issues this past year. Our best OF prospect struck out over 200 times in AA. Our best IF prospect hit .245 in AA at 22 - not exactly the stuff of HOF careers. The other 4 clubs in the division have better minor league systems than we do right now, so it's more likely that they will be able to improve from within in the next 2-3 years. There are only 3 ways that the Marlins can get anywhere near contention in the next 3 years: 1) kids like Alcantara, Diaz, Brinson and Harrison figure it out and VVM turns into Mike Trout (BTW Brinson almost doesn't qualify as a kid anymore - he turns 25 in May); 2) there are a couple of Bryce Harpers running around HS campuses right now for the Marlins to draft in the next 3 years as we stink; or 3) Jeter decides to spend money to bring power into the lineup and a couple of top-line starters into the rotation.
Lets look at the Braves, since they'd be a team we'd be competing against in '21. Do we have anybody in our system who will be better than Albies or Acuna? How about Swanson? And then there's Freddie Freeman, who will still be only 31 in '21. Kyle Wright and Mike Soroka seem to be a year or two ahead of all our minor league guys except Alcantara, and Sandy hasn't shown consistency yet.
The situation is really bad, and if you think it's going to be better sooner rather than later, you really haven't been paying attention to what Jeter has been saying.
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No disrespect, but ... really? Three to four YEARS, 95+ losses, starting this year? I know I'm very optimistic here with this, but I think this team, this year, can be as "good" as winning 75 games [so 87 losses]. I could be completely wrong, sure, and we lose 100 this year, but I don't think the team will be that bad, and 100% certain this team will not be losing 95+ four straight years. In fact I say 2020, 100%, closer to 80 losses than 90. I think that team could actually have a winning record, but of course a few chips have to fall into place.
No disrespect from me, either, but I’d love to know what makes you think they’re going to be even a little better, let alone a lot better. Remember that “the process” usually requires 3-4 years of sucking (the Astros had four years as bad or worse than what the Marlins just had)
What is your favorite moment while attending a Marlins game?
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My second favorite Marlins game was I've ever been to was Tuesday, September 20, 2016. The first-place Nationals were in town. Stanton hit a long home run, but it was all about the pitcher. It was probably the best game Jose Fernandez ever pitched: 8 IP, 3 H, no walks and 12 K. He probably wanted to finish the game, but he was up over 100 pitches, and Mattingly never really wanted Jose to overdo it. The Stanton HR was the only run scored that night.
Sure, we probably weren't going to make the playoffs, but the future was ridiculously bright. We had an All-Star outfield, an All-Star caliber catcher, our All-Star 2B had finished serving a half-year-long suspension, and we had Jose. And who knows: we were 4 games out of the playoffs with 11 to play, but I reasoned that we still had a another 2 starts from Jose left, and if we could win most of the remaining games, maybe we could sneak into the playoffs. The sky was the limit, and with the All-Star Game coming in 2017, it was going to be the Year of the Fish. I've never left a Marlins game with so much hope for the team's future - and we've won the World Series - twice!
Jose never pitched again.