Was never meant to go down like that Tealandblack, later soflamarlins, was me, festa, JJ, and Juanky. Larry was paranoid in 2005-06 offseason thinking that ramp and hugg were making a competing site. That wasn’t true but he was so paranoid about it that they did it (shadeznation). It was basically a joke but it lasted a little while. Then there were some more dust ups around 2007 with Larry thinking people were turning against him, so the four of us decided to start tealandblack.