The Conservatives have had their time bashing Liberals and their policy's, now let me turn the table on you and Dick Cheney.

 

Now, I'm sure none you support The Regimes that support Terrorism.

 

I do have a problem with our own VP though dealing with foreign terror nations for his own political gain and getting around US Laws to get to these nations.

 

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2.../24/80648.shtml

 

That is a conservative website that provided information about Cheney's dealing with Haliburton so please don't tell me it's another liberal lie because I think that say's it all.

 

While CEO of Haliburton, Dick couldn't get around US Law prohibiting him from working with Iraq and Iran so what did he do? Set up a post box in The Cayman Islands claiming it a Haliburton subsidiary and reaped the rewards of dealing with those banned markets. In fact, Haliburton Products and Services which has offices in Iran.

 

Again with the subisidary's, Haliburton has long used it's stance with the goverment to get juicy government contracts, after backlash from it's contract with rebuilding IRaq due to conflict of interest, this project still has haliburton involvement with it's subsidiary's.

 

Here's another one, another subsidiary Dresser Infustries has sold at least 30mil$ worth of oil equipment to The Hussein Dictatorship, as stated in the article about Cheney then lied about these shady buisness tactics.

 

He later changed those remark.

 

I await your responces but personally I feel upholding the law and not dealing with rogue nations for financial gain is the right thing to do, it's sad our VP and the company he was involved with feel differently.

I agree with Dennis Miller on Cheney. Should we really be taking a politician to task because he actually had some success in the private sector and did more than dedicate his life to a career in politics? Liberals snipe on Bush for being part of a political family, coming from wealth, and having everything handed to him. But when it comes to Cheney the liberals snipe at him for doing the exact opposite. Oh, and he is not directly linked to the decision making process with Halliburton contracts.

 

As for Halliburton.... Name one other company that was/is able to provide the logistical support that the US Military needs for the operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

Surprise, there isn't one. So, at the end of the day it is what it is.

 

Oh, and the whole Cayman island and offshore offices thing? Pick any international company worth more than 500 mil and chance are they have many of the same type of set ups that Halliburton does.

 

As I'm sure you know, politicians have their interests placed in a blind trust once they assume office. And I'm sure you won't be crying foul if Heinz ketchup is ordered for every MRE for the military if Kerry gets in office.

Haliburton has really reaped the rewards of having Cheney in the VP office. They've managed to get every major oil contract possible in Iraq, and are making billions off of the invasion. I doubt Heinz would make billions off of Iraq if Kerry was in office. Haliburton is just too shady for its own good.

I agree with Dennis Miller

 

No swipe at you, but Dennis Miller is a moron who has no business having his own show.

 

Liberals snipe on Bush for being part of a political family, coming from wealth, and having everything handed to him. But when it comes to Cheney the liberals snipe at him for doing the exact opposite.

 

Where you come from doesnt give you an excuse for what you do later.

E-mail cited by Time implies veep helped ex-employer get Iraq contract

From Suzanne Malveaux

CNN Washington Bureau

Sunday, May 30, 2004 Posted: 10:43 PM EDT (0243 GMT)

 

 

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Vice President Dick Cheney's office denied Sunday that he was involved in a coordinated effort to secure a multibillion dollar Iraq oil deal for Halliburton, his former employer.

 

A reference to such an arrangement was made in an internal Pentagon e-mail from an Army Corps of Engineers official to another Pentagon employee, Time magazine reports in its June 7 edition, which is due on newsstands Monday.

 

The existence of the e-mail was confirmed to CNN by a senior administration official familiar with it.

 

The e-mail -- dated March 5, 2003 -- says Douglas Feith, undersecretary of defense for policy, approved the arrangement to award the contract to the oil-services company, the administration official said.

 

According to an e-mail excerpt in Time, the contract was "contingent on informing WH [White House] tomorrow. We anticipate no issues since action has been coordinated w[ith] VP's office."

 

The Corps of Engineers gave Halliburton the contract three days later without seeking other bids, Time reports.

 

Time says it found the e-mail "among documents provided by Judicial Watch, a conservative watchdog group."

 

The senior official told CNN the e-mail was a typical "heads-up" memo from one government agency to another that "a decision has been made, we're about to announce this contract, and as a courtesy we are alerting the White House of a public announcement. This is a standard practice."

 

The "coordinated action" referred to, the senior administration official said, was "that of publicly announcing the contract decision that has already been made."

 

The heads-up would have been given because of Cheney's previous involvement in the company as chief executive officer, and the anticipated controversy over the noncompetitive bid, the official said.

 

"The vice president and his office have played no role whatsoever in government contracting since he left private business to campaign for vice president" in 1999, Cheney spokesman Kevin Kellems said Sunday.

 

Time reports the e-mail also says Feith got the "authority to execute RIO," or Restore Iraqi Oil, from his supervisor, Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz.

 

The contract was one of several Halliburton and its subsidiaries were awarded by the government over the past year.

 

Cheney was chairman and chief executive officer of the Texas-based Halliburton Co., one of the world's largest service providers to the oil and gas industry, from 1995 to 2000, when he resigned to run for vice president.

 

Cheney still receives about $150,000 a year in deferred payments for work he performed as chairman. He also holds more than 433,000 stock options, according to a report last fall by the Congressional Research Office requested by Sen. Frank Lautenberg, a New Jersey Democrat. (Full story)

 

Cheney has insisted in the past that the deferred compensation was set up two years before he became a vice presidential candidate in 2000 and that he assigned all his stock options to a charitable trust just before being sworn in.

I never thought too much of Cheney's links to Halliburton but after hearing what Ambassodor Joe Wilson has had to say about Dick Cheney, I have no reservations about seeing him in a bad light.

A little historical perspective on Halliburton (Brown and Root) through the 1990's.

 

The first LOGCAP was awarded in 1992, as the first Bush administration (including then-Secretary of Defense Cheney) was leaving office. Four companies competed, and the winner was Brown & Root, as it was known at the time (Halliburton changed the name to Kellogg Brown & Root after an acquisition in 1998). The multi-year contract was in effect during much of the Clinton administration. During those years, Brown & Root did extensive work for the Army under the LOGCAP contract in Haiti, Somalia, and Bosnia; contract workers built base camps and provided troops with electrical power, food, and other necessities.

 

In 1997, when LOGCAP was again put up for bid, Halliburton/Brown & Root lost the competition to another contractor, Dyncorp. But the Clinton Defense Department, rather than switch from Halliburton to Dyncorp, elected to award a separate, sole-source contract to Halliburton/Brown & Root to continue its work in the Balkans. According to a later GAO study, the Army made the choice because 1) Brown & Root had already acquired extensive knowledge of how to work in the area; 2) the company "had demonstrated the ability to support the operation"; and 3) changing contractors would have been costly. The Army's sole-source Bosnia contract with Brown & Root lasted until 1999. At that time, the Clinton Defense Department conducted full-scale competitive bidding for a new contract. The winner was . . . Halliburton/Brown & Root. The company continued its work in Bosnia uninterrupted.

 

That work received favorable notices throughout the Clinton administration. For example, Vice President Al Gore's National Performance Review mentioned Halliburton's performance in its Report on Reinventing the Department of Defense, issued in September 1996. In a section titled "Outsourcing of Logistics Allows Combat Troops to Stick to Basics," Gore's reinventing-government team favorably mentioned LOGCAP, the cost-plus-award system, and Brown & Root, which the report said provided "basic life support services ? food, water, sanitation, shelter, and laundry; and the full realm of logistics services ? transportation, electrical, hazardous materials collection and disposal, fuel delivery, airfield and seaport operations, and road maintenance."

 

MY GOD! Clinton circumvented the bidding procedure in 1997 in order to give work to Halliburton, EVEN WHEN THEY LOST TO A LOWER BIDDER!

 

That's it, I think Clinton was in on it too!! Maybe he and Cheney are in it together? And what of Gore, writing a sterling review of Halliburton while he was VP? Maybe Gore was in on it too? Maybe we need to check the roster of stockholders at Halliburton, Maybe Clinton ang Gore hold stock???

 

In other words, stop whining about Halliburton. Stop acting like sheep and following the American public (who, if I haven't said it before are incredibly stupid) when they jump to conclusions that the media leads them to.

 

DoD contracting is incredibly complex and codefied. Any conclusion made about the DoD's awarding of contracts to Halliburton by someone who isn't intimately familiar with the process (Democratic campaign activists, media, etc...) is total crap.