November 22, 200421 yr Name Team P Age AVG OBP SPC AB H 2B 3B HR R RBI HBP BB K SB CS ID Paul Lo Duca c 33 .274 .330 .387 555 152 32 2 9 64 66 10 39 46 2 4 701 Mike Redmond c 34 .256 .300 .327 223 57 13 0 1 16 22 1 14 27 1 1 724 Matt Treanor c 29 .223 .305 .333 264 59 11 0 6 31 28 3 29 52 3 2 702 Josh Willingham c 26 .243 .367 .444 338 82 18 1 16 66 53 3 65 92 7 4 703 Ryan Jorgensen c 26 .210 .270 .315 257 54 12 0 5 24 26 2 20 63 2 0 721 Ramon Castro c 29 .176 .269 .341 91 16 3 0 4 9 12 1 11 25 0 0 726 Luis Castillo# 2b 29 .306 .379 .368 592 181 16 6 3 91 50 2 71 67 25 12 704 Damion Easley 2b 35 .214 .301 .376 234 50 15 1 7 23 31 8 22 35 2 2 725 Sea Bass Gonzalez ss 28 .243 .290 .428 538 131 31 4 20 59 77 7 30 113 2 2 709 Lenny Harris* 3b 39 .208 .257 .262 130 27 4 0 1 10 11 1 8 15 1 0 727 Mike Lowell 3b 31 .283 .358 .498 580 164 42 1 27 82 98 5 66 80 4 2 710 Mike Mordecai ss 37 .218 .286 .287 101 22 4 0 1 10 8 1 9 20 1 1 728 Joe Dillon 3b 29 .266 .338 .470 432 115 28 3 18 72 66 4 45 102 9 7 732 Derek Wathan# ss 0 .253 .300 .349 384 97 19 3 4 49 34 4 23 67 14 9 711 Josh Wilson ss 24 .255 .317 .377 509 130 26 3 10 72 54 5 43 98 10 8 712 Kevin Hooper 2b 28 .223 .279 .257 412 92 9 1 1 50 27 4 29 57 13 9 733 Drew Niles# ss 28 .226 .296 .292 319 72 11 2 2 40 24 3 30 79 2 2 734 Jason Wood 3b 35 .224 .279 .338 393 88 19 1 8 44 41 4 27 88 2 1 736 Chris Aguila lf 26 .271 .333 .416 377 102 21 2 10 57 47 3 34 94 7 5 713 Miguel Cabrera lf 22 .308 .382 .527 607 187 31 3 32 104 119 6 70 138 7 3 714 Jeff Conine 1b 39 .249 .305 .378 502 125 28 2 11 52 66 3 39 74 4 3 705 Wil Cordero 1b 33 .255 .333 .395 329 84 16 0 10 35 46 3 37 67 1 1 729 Juan Encarnacion rf 29 .259 .315 .427 555 144 31 4 18 71 78 5 42 90 12 7 715 Juan Pierre* cf 27 .308 .362 .379 675 208 24 9 2 95 53 8 52 37 49 23 716 Admin Barnes* 1b 30 .254 .299 .422 386 98 21 4 12 45 52 4 22 83 3 1 718 Jeremy Hermida* rf 21 .239 .306 .313 377 90 11 1 5 53 33 4 34 88 13 3 720 Matt Padgett* lf 27 .231 .294 .402 433 100 24 1 16 52 60 4 36 121 3 2 735 Admin Sutton* 1b 35 .260 .347 .399 396 103 23 1 10 51 54 3 51 84 2 2 723 Brian Banks# lf 34 .234 .320 .374 278 65 16 1 7 37 35 3 33 59 2 2 717 Ryan Christenson cf 31 .220 .299 .325 295 65 17 1 4 37 26 3 31 62 6 5 730 Mike Colangelo lf 28 .256 .340 .404 285 73 19 1 7 73 38 3 34 67 2 1 731 Name Team P Age ERA W L S G GS CG SHO INN H R ER BB K HR GDP ID Josh Beckett sp 25 3.42 10 7 0 25 24 0 0 142.0 123 59 54 51 149 12 12 664 Armando Benitez cl 32 3.82 3 2 0 65 0 0 0 66.0 57 30 28 29 71 6 6 688 Toby Borland mr 36 4.00 4 4 0 56 0 0 0 63.0 57 30 28 29 62 6 6 678 Nate Bump mr 28 4.00 5 5 0 39 13 0 0 108.0 112 52 48 36 64 8 10 665 A.J. Burnett sp 28 3.46 9 7 0 24 23 0 0 151.0 129 63 58 62 151 9 13 666 Chad Fox mr 34 4.86 2 2 0 34 0 0 0 37.0 30 22 20 29 42 3 3 694 Franklyn Gracesqui* mr 25 5.82 2 4 0 42 0 0 0 51.0 43 36 33 54 55 3 5 669 Ben Howard mr 26 6.28 3 7 0 34 17 0 0 116.0 133 89 81 63 75 24 11 670 Logan Kensing sp 22 4.92 5 9 0 24 22 0 0 119.0 127 71 65 54 73 14 11 671 Billy Koch cl 30 4.30 5 5 0 64 0 0 0 67.0 58 35 32 38 70 6 6 690 Josias Manzanillo mr 37 5.27 2 3 0 33 0 0 0 41.0 46 26 24 15 29 8 4 689 Guillermo Mota mr 31 3.47 7 5 0 73 0 0 0 96.0 86 40 37 36 88 6 8 672 Carl Pavano sp 29 3.72 13 11 0 33 30 0 0 201.0 205 91 83 49 129 17 17 686 Matt Perisho* mr 30 4.38 5 6 0 66 4 0 0 76.0 76 40 37 30 58 8 7 674 Rudy Seanez mr 36 4.79 3 5 0 54 0 0 0 62.0 57 36 33 35 64 8 6 691 Aaron Small mr 33 4.53 7 9 0 29 22 0 0 147.0 161 81 74 35 95 23 13 693 Tim Spooneybarger mr 25 3.83 1 1 0 53 0 0 0 54.0 49 25 23 24 47 3 5 675 Ismael Valdez sp 31 5.00 8 12 0 30 29 0 0 162.0 188 99 90 44 78 26 15 687 Justin Wayne sp 26 4.87 5 8 0 29 24 0 0 135.0 144 80 73 55 84 17 12 676 David Weathers mr 35 4.61 4 6 0 71 1 0 0 82.0 82 46 42 39 65 9 7 692 Dontrelle Willis* sp 23 3.77 12 10 0 32 32 0 0 198.0 192 91 83 64 156 17 17 677 Juan Alvarez* mr 31 4.94 1 1 0 52 0 0 0 51.0 53 30 28 23 40 7 5 696 Matt Blank* sp 28 5.57 4 9 0 29 22 0 0 126.0 144 85 78 50 73 23 12 695 Jesse Carlson* mr 24 4.82 2 3 0 46 0 0 0 56.0 56 33 30 28 52 7 5 706 Kevin Cave mr 25 6.34 2 4 0 39 0 0 0 44.0 47 34 31 34 27 6 4 667 Bryan Corey mr 31 4.70 3 4 0 49 0 0 0 69.0 75 39 36 25 38 8 6 719 Jose Cueto mr 28 6.19 2 4 0 24 4 0 0 48.0 48 36 33 43 36 5 5 679 Mike Flannery mr 25 5.66 4 8 0 55 0 0 0 62.0 66 42 39 38 45 9 6 668 Jerrod Fuell mr 24 4.86 2 2 0 44 0 0 0 50.0 55 29 27 17 27 7 5 680 Steve Kent* mr 26 6.48 2 3 0 37 1 0 0 50.0 57 39 36 41 28 5 5 681 Spike Lundberg mr 28 5.07 5 8 0 45 10 0 0 119.0 138 73 67 37 67 18 11 707 David Manning sp 32 6.15 3 5 0 19 14 0 0 82.0 87 61 56 63 53 10 8 682 Bart Miadich mr 29 5.77 2 6 0 52 0 0 0 64.0 55 45 41 59 74 8 6 722 Chris Michalak* sp 34 5.61 4 9 0 39 13 0 0 114.0 132 78 71 45 68 22 11 697 Mike Nannini sp 25 5.90 5 12 0 30 24 0 0 145.0 164 104 95 67 109 30 14 698 Kevin Olsen sp 28 4.25 4 4 0 17 12 0 0 72.0 74 37 34 25 52 8 6 699 Joe Orloski mr 26 5.32 3 5 0 35 0 0 0 44.0 46 28 26 26 28 5 4 683 Jason Pearson* mr 29 4.66 2 3 0 52 0 0 0 56.0 58 31 29 20 42 8 5 684 Tommy Phelps* mr 31 4.14 3 4 0 48 3 0 0 76.0 74 38 35 28 62 8 7 685 Clint Sodowsky mr 32 5.64 5 10 0 43 2 0 0 67.0 75 46 42 34 40 11 6 700 Matt Whiteside mr 37 5.14 3 4 0 52 0 0 0 63.0 70 39 36 15 53 14 6 708 Mike Neu mr 27 4.33 2 2 0 44 0 0 0 52.0 48 27 25 29 45 4 5 673 Fun little thing to compare players. These have been adjusted for park factors so that's why batter stats are too high and pitchers too low/high. Not for playing time so it's hard to get a read on how the Marlins on a whole would do. More info on ZIPS 2005 player projections for Anaheim through Los Angeles
November 22, 200421 yr Author 2005 Marlins Name Team P Age AVG OBP SPC AB H 2B 3B HR R RBI HBP BB K SB CS ID Mark Little lf 32 .252 .299 .406 286 72 15 4 7 38 31 7 13 68 6 4 513 CLE Name Team P Age ERA W L S G GS CG SHO INN H R ER BB K HR GDP ID Travis Smith sp 32 4.79 7 10 0 33 23 0 0 139.0 157 81 74 40 72 20 13 132 ATL Frank Castillo sp 36 4.38 8 9 0 29 23 0 0 156.0 164 83 76 46 110 22 14 255 BOS Former Marlins Name Team P Age AVG OBP SPC AB H 2B 3B HR R RBI HBP BB K SB CS ID Derrek Lee 1b 29 .280 .375 .512 592 166 37 2 32 93 102 8 85 135 15 7 325 CHC Wilson Valdez ss 27 .258 .301 .315 387 100 13 3 1 50 26 4 21 48 23 14 378 CHW Rob Stratton lf 27 .200 .255 .455 310 62 11 1 22 41 52 3 21 132 3 3 525 CLE Ivan Rodriguez c 33 .312 .369 .477 503 157 31 2 16 71 78 4 44 87 7 5 621 DET Abraham Nunez# lf 28 .233 .311 .363 322 75 16 1 8 47 37 2 36 84 7 5 841 KCR Hee Seop Choi* 1b 26 .246 .367 .453 395 97 20 1 20 61 61 5 73 111 1 1 897 LAD Name Team P Age ERA W L S G GS CG SHO INN H R ER BB K HR GDP ID Bill Murphy* sp 24 6.90 3 13 0 26 26 0 0 133.0 145 112 102 97 111 29 13 ARI Mike Hampton* sp 32 4.85 11 11 0 30 30 0 0 180.0 199 106 97 77 89 16 17 126 ATL Armando Almanza* mr 32 5.60 3 3 0 45 0 0 0 45.0 45 31 28 25 41 8 4 136 ATL Matt Clement sp 30 4.05 13 11 0 31 31 0 0 189.0 170 93 85 79 191 20 17 296 CHC Ryan Dempster sp 28 5.11 4 6 0 28 25 0 0 162.0 168 101 92 80 119 21 15 297 CHC Denny Bautista sp 24 5.20 7 12 0 30 28 0 0 166.0 173 105 96 102 122 14 16 798 KCR Brad Penny sp 27 3.84 11 9 0 27 27 0 0 157.0 152 73 67 46 120 18 14 872 LAD Future Marlins? Name Team P Age AVG OBP SPC AB H 2B 3B HR R RBI HBP BB K SB CS ID Andres Galarraga 1b 44 .240 .305 .361 288 69 14 0 7 28 34 6 21 79 1 3 32 ANA Greg Colbrunn 1b 35 .296 .342 .556 108 32 8 1 6 15 14 0 8 15 0 0 94 ARI Danny Bautista rf 33 .281 .329 .396 445 125 22 1 9 49 50 4 30 58 5 2 105 ARI Jay Gibbons* rf 28 .267 .326 .439 510 136 29 1 19 62 75 2 45 75 1 2 210 BAL Gabe Kapler rf 29 .274 .317 .365 285 78 10 2 4 43 29 1 18 48 6 4 279 BOS Sammy Sosa rf 36 .255 .346 .518 498 127 20 0 37 79 95 3 68 134 0 0 341 CHC Magglio Ordonez rf 31 .313 .378 .544 511 160 39 2 25 82 92 6 50 61 5 6 385 CHW Adam Dunn* lf 25 .263 .398 .546 544 143 26 1 42 99 106 7 118 175 8 4 445 CIN Jeromy Burnitz* lf 36 .257 .332 .513 499 128 25 2 33 77 87 6 52 119 5 7 582 COL Name Team P Age ERA W L S G GS CG SHO INN H R ER BB K HR GDP ID Scot Shields mr 29 3.63 8 3 0 53 6 0 0 119.0 113 52 48 37 103 9 10 16 ANA Matt Mantei cl 31 3.92 3 4 0 39 0 0 0 39.0 33 19 17 15 47 5 3 72 ARI Antonio Alfonseca mr 33 4.38 5 3 0 69 0 0 0 72.0 74 38 35 30 47 5 7 119 ATL Russ Ortiz sp 31 4.76 13 12 0 34 34 0 0 204.0 207 118 108 104 143 18 19 129 ATL Jason Grimsley mr 37 4.76 6 4 0 73 0 0 0 70.0 69 40 37 39 50 5 6 183 BAL Buddy Groom* mr 39 4.33 3 2 0 63 0 0 0 54.0 57 28 26 16 34 6 5 184 BAL Byung-Hyun Kim sp 26 3.83 9 5 0 50 13 0 0 94.0 91 44 40 26 77 9 8 235 BOS Mike Myers* mr 36 4.95 3 2 0 70 0 0 0 40.0 41 24 22 21 26 4 4 242 BOS Dennys Reyes* mr 28 4.84 4 5 0 46 8 0 0 93.0 96 55 50 47 74 9 9 819 KCR Jose Lima sp 32 4.85 6 9 0 29 20 0 0 128.0 143 76 69 30 70 24 11 885 LAD Elmer Dessens sp 34 4.12 7 6 0 38 24 0 0 155.0 160 78 71 43 97 19 14 888 LAD
November 22, 200421 yr No saves for anyone? Damn, I guess that's a good thing for the offense. :mischief
November 22, 200421 yr And some people wonder why it's soooooo easy to ignore the idle ramblings of die-hard statheads. :banghead
November 22, 200421 yr Those pitching predictions are a joke. How does Benitez go from having his best season ever in his career to his worst? Mota with a mid 3 ERA? You can say it's adjusted for the park factor but then why are the starters' ERA fairly consistent if not generous. The offensive stats seem to be on par although Luis will do much better than what it says there as far as stealing bases is concerned as well JP. If Willingham came come close to that power, then LoDuca should be out the door. Not like it's final but that a good estimate of LoDuca's contributions next season .280 9 hrs...with below average D, if anyone thinks that's worth 6 - 8 million you're insane. Now that Guillen is out of the question, I think we can benefit offensively by letting LoDuca go and with that money getting hold of JD Drew for a bit more.
November 22, 200421 yr These are just predictions people. Nobody takes this as the Bible. 619854[/snapback] Well they're pretty horrible predictions. The Marlins have completely cut ties with Billy Koch and Ramon Castro, yet both of them are on there. Someone obviously didn't do much research when putting that list together.
November 22, 200421 yr These are just predictions people. Nobody takes this as the Bible. 619854[/snapback] Well they're pretty horrible predictions. The Marlins have completely cut ties with Billy Koch and Ramon Castro, yet both of them are on there. Someone obviously didn't do much research when putting that list together. 619899[/snapback] This time, I'm ordering them by local ID on my DMB disk, since that gives the order I've created players in, thus keeping organizations very loosely grouped together. As usual, there are scattered fringe players that are no longer with the organization they're grouped with.
November 22, 200421 yr a couple that caught me eye... Name Team P Age AVG OBP SPC AB H 2B 3B HR R RBI HBP BB K SB CS ID Josh Willingham c 26 .243 .367 .444 338 82 18 1 16 66 53 3 65 92 7 4 703 Joe Dillon 3b 29 .266 .338 .470 432 115 28 3 18 72 66 4 45 102 9 7 732 Matt Padgett* lf 27 .231 .294 .402 433 100 24 1 16 52 60 4 36 121 3 2 735 619680[/snapback]
November 23, 200421 yr Author Those pitching predictions are a joke. 619826[/snapback] Read the bolded section. These are park-adjusted. All Marlins batters will not do as well as projected. All Marlins pitchers will post better numbers. The opposite for Rockies.
November 23, 200421 yr Those pitching predictions are a joke. 619826[/snapback] Read the bolded section. These are park-adjusted. All Marlins batters will not do as well as projected. All Marlins pitchers will post better numbers. The opposite for Rockies. 620134[/snapback] I understand that, it's just not consistent, Mota and Benitez will surely do better than those stats but do you honestly see Willis, Burnett posting better ERAs? It's as consistent with regard to pitching.
November 23, 200421 yr Author Perhaps you should click the link I provided. Benitezs and Mota lose points for being past their primes. And their career performances are factored into this. Benitez has had some less-than-spectacular years while Mota's career ERA is 3.42 mostly in pitcher-friendly parks.
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