Because the whole idea of my idea is to ultimately save humanity. In this case, brutality is the way to do it.

 

Being inhumane to save humanity. Is that like beating your wife so she doesn't get beaten?

1. This isnt a liberal/conservative issue. Im sure the religious right wouldnt be too happy with taking innocent civilians and disposing of them like animals. Last time I checked, a lot of people with AIDS arent gay. Stop trying to put idiotic labels on people.

 

 

Ok, Im sorry for trying to believe that this is a liberal/conservative thing. I WAS WRONG, and I shouldnt have tried to make it that way. However, find a post on this board in which I state that most people with AIDS are gay, or where I even give a stance on homosexuals. I never have mentioned that topic, and if you thought it was implied, I assure you, it wasnt.

 

2. How can you defend such an extreme policy? I imagine you would go so far as to exile the disabled also since they are not productive enough to compensate their cost on society? Should we kill people with cerebral palsy? Maybe the elderly should be killed off since they take up so much health funds. Should we exile people who have weaker immune systems and often get the cold? This policy is seriously nuts.

 

 

No, not at all. People with cerebral palsy arent infected with a contagious disease that is easily spread and will kill people. HIV positive people can spread their illness, and thus kill more people. Which is why I advocate removing them from society. Such a policy obviously works, because you wont find anyone with AIDS in Cuba. And whys that? Because Fidel got rid of them.

 

And if you are so insistent on their freedom, it could be that way. We could castrate the guys and sew the womens vaginas shut. How bout it? :blink:

 

3. Your condom argument is false. Stop listening to the Vatican for scientific analysis:

 

 

 

Condoms are the other important part of HIV prevention. That's latex condoms, used correctly, every time you have intercourse. Forget the stories about HIV swimming right through the pores in condoms - HIV is usually bonded on to a cell which is far too large to pass through the pores, and the surface tension of the semen is also a factor in keeping HIV in the condom. A study of 250 couples where one partner was HIV positive found that among the couples who used condoms consistently and correctly, none of the uninfected partners became infected. Condom use in Thailand has substantially reduced the HIV infection rate there, which was skyrocketing because of the very active sex trade.

 

http://www.ualberta.ca/dept/health/public_...fo/aidsprev.htm

 

Claims that latex condoms allow HIV to pass through are unfounded. The pores of latex condoms are too small to allow HIV to pass through. Condoms have been shown to be effective barriers not only to HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, but also to herpes simplex, CMV, hepatitis B, chlamydia and gonorrhea.2 "Condoms for prevention of sexually transmitted diseases," Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, 1998; 37:133-137.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh and not to mention that little thing called the constitution which you seem to have no regards for.

 

Fine, I was wrong on that as well. I had heard the rumor somewhere, it didnt seem that extraordinary, and I believed. You have actual facts, so, you win. Kudos.

 

But if condoms and safe sex completely prevented AIDS, then the numbers would be going down, wouldnt they? But theyre not. People continue to get AIDS. Whys that? Because not everyone uses condoms. So thats not going to work.

 

One, and only one, solution has worked. And Fidel knows what it is.

 

 

 

 

Youre going to fault the solution for not being perfect because of its misuse?

 

Lets follow that logic.

 

If putting criminals in prison prevented crime by creating a disincentive(the solution), then there would be no crime and people wouldnt commit crime because they would be afraid(the demand for perfection of the solution). But crime is still around and people commit crime even when they know they will go to jail(the misuse of the solution). So the only solution to crime is to destroy humanity.(the insane alternative).

 

And here is evidence that condom use does reduce AIDS:

 

Thailand

 

After peaking at around 140,000 cases in 1991, the number of new HIV infections in Thailand declined to an estimated 21,000 in 2003. This dramatic fall was mainly due to increased condom use by men and a reduction in their use of brothels.

 

Cambodia:

 

Recent efforts to halt the spread of the epidemic, including a programme promoting 100% condom use, have enjoyed some success. Figures indicate that HIV prevalence amongst brothel-based sex workers dropped from 43% to 29% between 1998 and 2002.

 

Lao

Overall, less than 1% of indirect sex workers tested in 2000 were found to be HIV-positive.

 

 

 

One of the reasons for the fairly low prevalence rates in the Lao People's Democratic Republic might be that consistent condom use is comparatively high amongst female sex workers - 73% in 2000. About two thirds of the police and military, and three quarters of truck drivers, said they always used condoms with a paid partner.

 

 

 

http://www.avert.org/aidssoutheastasia.htm

 

 

 

And btw, where are you going to put all of these people?

 

 

 

 

 

No, not at all. People with cerebral palsy arent infected with a contagious disease that is easily spread and will kill people. HIV positive people can spread their illness, and thus kill more people. Which is why I advocate removing them from society. Such a policy obviously works, because you wont find anyone with AIDS in Cuba. And whys that? Because Fidel got rid of them.

 

And if you are so insistent on their freedom, it could be that way. We could castrate the guys and sew the womens vaginas shut. How bout it?

 

 

 

But they have an adverse affect on society don't they? Its the same inhumane approach to society in general that Im comparing. Remember, Hitler tried to take a similiar approach on people he deemed to have an adverse affect on society.

 

And the due process clause, via substanitive due process and not procedural due process, prevents such a heinous government policy. I cant believe it is even considered in this country.

The correlation between imprisonment and Handling AIDS the way Castro did is irrelevant. It's already been proven it will owrk, its just a debate whether its right or not.

 

I don't say put these people in camps, but maybe a mandatory testing, let everyone atleast know who had the AIDS... It maybe be sick, but maybe a tattao or something... Is being a little inhumain worth wiping out the AIDS virus, i think thats the big debate...