May 22, 200620 yr You know the difference between a federal civil violation and a criminal violation? Is there really any point to this argument? Breaking a law is breaking a law. And also, the whole illegally recording conversations thing... It's gotten a few Republicans in trouble through the years, so it's not exactly a good thing...
May 22, 200620 yr You know the difference between a federal civil violation and a criminal violation? Is there really any point to this argument? Breaking a law is breaking a law. And also, the whole illegally recording conversations thing... It's gotten a few Republicans in trouble through the years, so it's not exactly a good thing... He didnt record the conversation. Some Florida couple did and then turned it over to him. It was released to the press though he denied it. If he did leak it, I dont condone his actions in the least but it certainly does rise to the level of political corruption. And Id say there is a huge difference between a civil violation and a criminal one. There is a reason one has such a higher burden of proof than the other.
May 23, 200620 yr And Id say there is a huge difference between a civil violation and a criminal one. There is a reason one has such a higher burden of proof than the other. There's a different burden of proof because people value time more than money. It's one thing to have a civil judgement in what amounts to a difference of opinion, such as all the auto accident cases, etc. There's no real law and the trial is just to determine who is at fault. That's not the case here. He was found to have violated law by a preponderance of evidence. Yes that means the higher burden has not been met, yet. Either way, when we're talking about worrying about corruption, even a civil court finding suspiscious activities should bring worry to the constituents. Honestly, I'd love to see EVERY encumbent in congress (and even my state government) lose.
May 23, 200620 yr Wasn't James Traficant a Dem? Not sure. And honestly, gents, why get so bent out of shape over which party has more corrupt politicians? That's kind of .... lame.
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