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Cards/ Cubs/ Astros comparison

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C. Matheny/ Barret/ Ausmus 1. Astros 2. Cards 3. Cubs

1B. Cox/ Lee/ Bagwell 1. Astros 2. Cubs 3. Cards

2B. Anderson/ Walker- Grudzielanek/ Kent 1. Astros 2. Cubs 3. Cards

3B. Rolen/ Ramirez/ Ensberg 1. Astros 2. Cards 3 Cubs

SS. Renteria/ Gonzalez/ Everett 1. Cards 2. Cubs 3. Astros

LF. Pujols/ Alou/ berkman 1. Cards 2. Astros 3. Cubs

CF. Edmonds/ Patterson/ Biggio 1. Cards 2. Cubs 3. Astros

RF. Sanders/ Sosa/ Hidalgo 1. Cubs 2. Cards 3. Astros

SP. Morris/ Prior/ Oswalt 1. Cubs 2. Astros 3. Cards

SP. Williams/ Wood/ Pettitte 1. astros 2. Cubs 3 Cards

SP. Suppan/ Zambrano/ CLEMENS? 1. Cubs 2. Astros 3. Cubs

SP. Marquis/ Clement/ Miller 1. Astros 2. Cubs 3. Cards

SP. ????/ ???/ Duckworth

Bullpen: 1. Astros 2. Cards 3. Cubs

Manager: 1. Astros 2. Cards 3. Cubs

You got the rotations wrong

In order

 

Prior/Oswalt/Morris

Wood/Williams/Miller

Pettitte/Zambrano/Suppan

Clement/Redding/Marquis

Robertson/Cruz/???

God I hate adding to these discussions because these lists are typically bulls***. But here's two thoughts:

 

1. Andy Pettitte is nowhere near as good as Kerry.

2. You really have it in for Dusty, don't you?

C. Matheny/ Barret/ Ausmus - 1. St Lou , 2. Houston 3. Cubs

1B. Cox/ Lee/ Bagwell 1. Astros 2. Cubs 3. Cards

2B. Anderson/ Walker- Grudzielanek/ Kent 1. Astros 2. Cubs 3. Cards

3B. Rolen/ Ramirez/ Ensberg 1. Cards 2. Cubs 3. Astros

SS. Renteria/ Gonzalez/ Everett 1. Cards 2. Cubs 3. Astros

LF. Pujols/ Alou/ berkman 1. Cards 2. Astros 3. Cubs

CF. Edmonds/ Patterson/ Biggio 1. Cards 2. Astros 3. Cubs

RF. Sanders/ Sosa/ Hidalgo 1. Cubs 2. Astros 3. Cards

SP. Morris/ Prior/ Oswalt 1. Cubs 2. Astros 3. Cards

SP. Williams/ Wood/ Pettitte 1. astros 2. Cubs 3 Cards

SP. Suppan/ Zambrano/ CLEMENS? 1. Astros 2. Cubs 3. Cards

SP. Marquis/ Clement/ Miller 1. Astros 2. Cubs 3. Cards

Bullpen: 1. Astros 2. Cards 3. Cubs

Manager: 1. Cards 2. Cubs 3. Astros

 

 

how can anyone say that Ensberg is better than Rolen and Ramirez :angry

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he cost the Giants the World Series in 02

He also got them there, genius. no he didn't. they got there despite him

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he cost the Giants the World Series in 02

He also got them there, genius. no he didn't. they got there despite him They got there cuz bonds... exactly, not because of dusty

To all the people who say the Cubs bullpen is worse than the Cards and Astros, GET REAL.

 

First, Billy Wagner was the linchpin of the Stros pen, and he's gone now...replaced with Brandon Duckworth. Dotel moves into the closer role, and he's great, but the Cubs got Hawkins so let's call that a wash.

 

Who else do the Astros have? Brad Lidge? Overrated, despite the media focus on the Lidge to Dotel to Wagner system last year. Just look at the DWBL - he's frequently added and dropped. Same with Mike Gallo. Compare those two to Remlinger, the Farns, and Joe Borowski, and again, no contest.

 

The Stros have good up and comers in Saarloos and the guys they got from Philly, Buchholz and Astacio. But the Cubs farm system has go-to guys such as Wellemeyer, Angel Guzman, and Andy Sisco.

 

Lastly, the Cubs added by subtraction this offseason by jettisoning Alfie and Veres.

 

The vaunted Astros bullpen is no more. And don't even get me started on those who labelled the Cards' pen as better. Jason Marquis? Ray King? Julian Tavarez???? Lincoln, Calero, and Eldred are decent, but the staff is still a mess. Favoring them over Borowski, Remlinger, Farns, Hawkins, and Cruz is nutso.

 

So that's my rant.

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