ManicMarlin

We've waited this long...I suppose we can wait longer. :confused

The Marlins are about 70 million short. I thought the gap was $100 mil.

Jerry del Castillo: Stadium deal is almost past the study phase and is more into the planning phase. When did he say this? Today? Also, it's "almost past the study phase" but it's "more into the planning phase"? Don't those statements contradict themselves? I suppose they do if one if dependant on the other which is my assumption. Is my assumption wrong?

I've got some good news...I talked to my cousin who is Codina's personal financial advisor and he said that codina did infact agree to donate the land and that the county manager is working his a** off to get this deal done. He was pretty confidant that a stadium deal will be done. :arms if this is true.

The end of May is fast approaching. Are we going to get an update or announcement on the stadium before the end of the month? And if the month ends before we do, what does that mean?

He wants to build a Main Street type atmosphere surrounding the stadium and wants to have 25-30k customers in the area for 81 days a year. Something like Huizenga does near Dolphin Stadium. Except Codina is going to get what he wants because he's willing to see the big picture and share. Good for Codina if it's true and too bad for Wayne...should have donated the land.

Now the "everyone" comment is in general from the fans Meaning that the feeling is that the stadium deal in Hialeah will get done just like they thought the OB was going to get done. Quite often while tailgating before UM games people were asking "where's the stadium going? I NEVER claimed that the people close to negotiations said it was done deal. So you're basing the "everyone" comment on fans, which is what I thought. That makes it meaningless to me. The point I was trying to make was that the comments coming out of Hialeah and the Marlins sound better than they've ever sounded. I don't care how close anyone says the deal is to being completed. When it's is signed sealed and delivered I will celebrate. Me too It's quite obvious you don't read the entire post. You somehow got the impression that because I rooted for the Longhorns that I am from Texas. How about the line where I said "There has been enough disappointment over the years down here" you couldn't gather that I am from Miami???? I read the entire post, but you're right...I did miss that. A simple oversight. Sorry. Let me give you a slight clue, I was born and raised here and graduated from UT. I am willing to bet that I go to more sporting events down here (in S. Florida) than you do. I was raised in South Florida too and I'm willing to bet that you do go to more events down there only because I'm not there anymore, out of necessity, so don't pump your chest out so much. Just because you're there doesn't make you a better fan(I know you didn't say that, but that's what you implied in that statement). When I get back down there in a few years, I'll be at plenty, probably with season tickets to all four sports. Back on topic. So Codina wants to build a mall on that land, is that what it is? So what's stopping him from building his mall anyway, even without the Marlins there? I think someone above might have hit on it. The stadium would make his land more valuable and the small amount of acres that he gives up would be recouped by the increased value of the land around it. Is that right? Now it starts to make sense why he would give away land like that.

...the land is going to be given by Codina Now this is the big deal here. You seem pretty sure about this and I have no reason to doubt you yet. Now I'm 100% positive that there's no way that this guy would give away land for nothing, so there is something that the city or county, or the Marlins, is offering him in return for this. No business man is going to give away his assests for free. The question is what is this that they're offering him in return? I'd really really like to know, if you know what it is Festa.

Everyone thought the Orange Bowl site was done deal. Care to show this information? Sounds like your opinion to me. Maybe you can show me some quotes from "everyone" that said the Orange Bowl site was a "done deal". I don't remember that being said by anyone related to that negotiation, ever. But since you boys from Texas seem to know a lot about the inner workings of South Florida negotiations maybe you can show me some of those quotes from "everyone". It was a horrible choice for a location and got what it deserved. NEXT! hialeah's worse, imo. For crying out loud people! Do you really care where the freakin' stadium is built as long as it's in South Florida? I don't care if they built the damn thing in the middle of Alligator Alley, I'd still go to games.

Oh, if you connect the dots you will find out who exactly his source is. :mischief Ok...so this guys a radio show host....he knows the mayor...personally? That far enough?

He didn't. Del Castillo was told by his sources. They want to get the rebate so Hialeah and Miami-Dade can reduce their contribution from the money collected from the ballpark district. And who pray tell are "his sources"? I understand them wanting to lower their contributions, but if they start building this thing and go to the state what's stopping the state from saying, despite the help from the local legislators, "hey, you've already got a stadium, bugger off!"

The gap is zero. The $60 million isn't necessary to start construction. Is that what he said on the radio? If so then why even bother with the rebate?

Do you really think they are going to start building this thing with a funding gap? That sounds a little weird to me. I mean, what happens if they get a year into it and the state still doesn't give them the rebate? I'd imagine that they'll have to come up with a backup plan to fill the funding gap with the hope that the Miami delegates will push this thing through next year.

lets put it this way, it sounds positive and nothing seem to have changed with the negative outcome out of Tallahasee :thumbup Thumbs Up baby! Right on.

So this sounds like really really really good news then. :thumbup