Flying_Mollusk Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 "Last night on this broadcast we reported that the 101st Airborne never found the nearly 380 tons of HMX and RDX explosives. We did not conclude the explosives were missing or had vanished, nor did we say they missed the explosives. We simply reported that the 101st did not find them." "For its part, the Bush campaign immediately pointed to our report as conclusive proof that the weapons had been removed before the Americans arrived. That is possible, but that is not what we reported." For the second day Mr. Bush did not speak about the issue, twice ignoring questions from reporters." http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/27/politics...ogin&oref=login So why cant Bush just clarify this? He can settle the whole matter right? Ah...looks like Sludge drew false conclusions. Spin spin spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Fillet Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 The simple truth is that no one is able to determine when the weapons went missing as yet. But apparently that hasn't stopped Kerry from accusing Bush and the US Army of negligence. This really pisses me off. It's not enough that Kerry can get some mileage with the adminstration not knowing yet what's going on with the explosives. Instead they have to take it a step further and make completely unsubstantiated accusations. Pandering, that's all it is. And I am starting to believe Bush when he says Kerry will say anything to get elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 give me a break FF. Both candidates will say anything to get elected...otherwise they would be fools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 give me a break FF. Both candidates will say anything to get elected...otherwise they would be fools. 602163[/snapback] So true, just that Kerry's have seemed more blatant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishPhan Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 UN watchdogs are saying the weapons went missing sometime in May 03 after the Hussein regime had been toppled. :plain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Thats the UN though. Lets wait until someone more reliable like Limbaugh or Drudge to lead us to truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishPhan Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 ABC News Iraq denies explosives disappeared before war A top Iraqi science official says it is impossible that 350 tonnes of high explosives could have been smuggled out of a military site south of Baghdad before the regime fell last year. The UN nuclear watchdog this week said the explosives went missing from a weapons dump some time after Saddam Hussein's regime was toppled in April 2003. But as the issue of the missing explosives took centre stage in the US presidential campaign, some US officials have suggested they had gone before the US-led forces moved on Baghdad. "It is impossible that these materials could have been taken from this site before the regime's fall," Mohammed al-Sharaa, who heads the Science Ministry's site monitoring department, said. "The officials that were inside this facility (Al-Qaqaa) beforehand confirm that not even a shred of paper left it before the fall. "I spoke to them about it and they even issued certified statements to this effect which the US-led coalition was aware of." Mr Sharaa also warns that other nearby sites with similar materials could have also been plundered. -- AFP abc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishPhan Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Thats the UN though. Lets wait until someone more reliable like Limbaugh or Drudge to lead us to truth. 602175[/snapback] Drudge is still trying to figure out what was under Bushie's coat in that first debate, not to mention find the evidence of Kerry's infidelity (my personal favorite). And Limbaugh is busy getting to the bottom of a case of donuts and finishing off another 10 bottles of viccodyn and prozac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaq-Man Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 UN watchdogs are saying the weapons went missing sometime in May 03 after the Hussein regime had been toppled. :plain 602172[/snapback] Actually, the UN noticed they were missing when they went to check in May 03. They aren't capable of telling when the weapons "went missing." The UN confirmed the explosives were still there sometime prior to the invasion of Iraq (March I believe?). And as the NBC embeds noted, the 101st Airborne division didn't come across any such explosives when they first arrived at and camped in Al-qaqaa during the invasion in April 03. I spoke to someone today who also misunderstood what the UN inspectors said, presumably because he misunderstood what he heard in the media. Just clarifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishPhan Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 UN watchdogs are saying the weapons went missing sometime in May 03 after the Hussein regime had been toppled. :plain 602172[/snapback] Actually, the UN noticed they were missing when they went to check in May 03. They aren't capable of telling when the weapons "went missing." The UN confirmed the explosives were still there sometime prior to the invasion of Iraq (March I believe?). And as the NBC embeds noted, the 101st Airborne division didn't come across any such explosives when they first arrived at and camped in Al-qaqaa during the invasion in April 03. I spoke to someone today who also misunderstood what the UN inspectors said, presumably because he misunderstood what he heard in the media. Just clarifying. 602183[/snapback] It is rather explicit in the article I posted above. The UN nuclear watchdog this week said the explosives went missing from a weapons dump some time after Saddam Hussein's regime was toppled in April 2003. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancin'_Homer Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 give me a break FF.? Both candidates will say anything to get elected...otherwise they would be fools. 602163[/snapback] So true, just that Kerry's have seemed more blatant 602164[/snapback] Only to the partisan eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaq-Man Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 It is rather explicit in the article I posted above. The UN nuclear watchdog this week said the explosives went missing from a weapons dump some time after Saddam Hussein's regime was toppled in April 2003. 602184[/snapback] ha, I got PWNED for being smug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishPhan Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 It is rather explicit in the article I posted above. The UN nuclear watchdog this week said the explosives went missing from a weapons dump some time after Saddam Hussein's regime was toppled in April 2003. 602184[/snapback] ha, I got PWNED for being smug. 602192[/snapback] I was just saying man. This thing is changing by the hour, just keep up on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 602164[/snapback][/right] Only to the partisan eye. 602187[/snapback] As an independant that statement loses its value completely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancin'_Homer Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Yes ... I detect your "independence" in every stance you take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Yes ... I detect your "independence" in every stance you take. 602271[/snapback] Then apparently your knowledge of politics is limited. If you review my stance on social issues AND on the war in iraq, it does not comply with Bush's or the republican agenda. Or if you bothered to read my social welfare post a few months back it was rather liberal, even Lcyberlina agreed with my stance on that issue. However, I do support Bush in this election, but my stance on the issues would make me a moderate republican in republican circles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancin'_Homer Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Democrat, Republican, whatever ... I find it impossibly naive that anyone would believe one candidate holds a greater share of hypocrisy than any other. Yes, Kerry would say anything to get elected. So would Bush (remember 2000...South Carolina ... McCain?). Oh, and by the way, there is no Santa Claus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinFan10 Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 I think we all know the answer. John Edwards took the weapons, figuring he would be on the ballot come election day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 Democrat, Republican, whatever ... I find it impossibly naive that anyone would believe one candidate holds a greater share of hypocrisy than any other. Yes, Kerry would say anything to get elected. So would Bush (remember 2000...South Carolina ... McCain?). Oh, and by the way, there is no Santa Clause. 602280[/snapback] Excellent dodge on your lack of political knowledge. Defintely A+ for effort. Kerry's saying anythign to get elected has been more blatant b/c the RNC has made it a campaign focal point in pointing out 'flipflops' whereas the dems have attacked hard on foreign policy and jobs record in their campaign. Nice try though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancin'_Homer Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 It's so easy to prick the pompous. :rofl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lcyberlina Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 "Last night on this broadcast we reported that the 101st Airborne never found the nearly 380 tons of HMX and RDX explosives. We did not conclude the explosives were missing or had vanished, nor did we say they missed the explosives. We simply reported that the 101st did not find them." "For its part, the Bush campaign immediately pointed to our report as conclusive proof that the weapons had been removed before the Americans arrived. That is possible, but that is not what we reported." For the second day Mr. Bush did not speak about the issue, twice ignoring questions from reporters." http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/27/politics...ogin&oref=login So why cant Bush just clarify this? He can settle the whole matter right? Ah...looks like Sludge drew false conclusions. Spin spin spin. 602145[/snapback] Mollusk, Bush has been quoted as saying that "a leader should never admit to his mistakes". So, don't expect to hear a clarification any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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