June 6, 200521 yr Loria sank a franchise-record $65 million into the team's roster and surprised many when he secured free-agent slugger Carlos Delgado during the winter. But the Marlins, a preseason choice by baseball insiders to contend for a third World Series title, are flailing so miserably that Delgado himself called a players-only meeting before Sunday's game. That followed another closed-door meeting after Saturday's loss in which McKeon ripped into players. It's great to see Delgado stepping up and being a leader :notworthy
June 6, 200521 yr So he was the one, Hutton mentioned a player did but didn't know who. Nice to see him step up.
June 6, 200521 yr This doesn't sound like good news. Had it been after Sunday's game or anytime but after 12 hours after Jack's talk, perhaps, but this doesn't sound good at all.
June 6, 200521 yr This doesn't sound like good news. Had it been after Sunday's game or anytime but after 12 hours after Jack's talk, perhaps, but this doesn't sound good at all. 797993[/snapback] why you think that? mutiny? I don't think Delgado have any beef against Jack, they seem to get alone well. Delgado can talk in spanish directly to the hispanic players, etc. More open environment since he understand the culture, etc.
June 6, 200521 yr Anything that helps because we really need to win tomorrows game. We already went from first to last place. Good news is that last place is only 1.5 games back.
June 6, 200521 yr This doesn't sound like good news. Had it been after Sunday's game or anytime but after 12 hours after Jack's talk, perhaps, but this doesn't sound good at all. 797993[/snapback] why you think that? mutiny? I don't think Delgado have any beef against Jack, they seem to get alone well. Delgado can talk in spanish directly to the hispanic players, etc. More open environment since he understand the culture, etc. 797996[/snapback] No idea. Could be that Delgado agreed or disagreed. I just don't think the timing suggests a clubhouse-wide understanding. And I somehow doubt Jack is too interested in making sure the words of the 'chat' understood, as long as the tone was recognized.
June 6, 200521 yr This doesn't sound like good news. Had it been after Sunday's game or anytime but after 12 hours after Jack's talk, perhaps, but this doesn't sound good at all. 797993[/snapback] why you think that? mutiny? I don't think Delgado have any beef against Jack, they seem to get alone well. Delgado can talk in spanish directly to the hispanic players, etc. More open environment since he understand the culture, etc. 797996[/snapback] No idea. Could be that Delgado agreed or disagreed. I just don't think the timing suggests a clubhouse-wide understanding. And I somehow doubt Jack is too interesting in making sure the words of the 'chat' understood, as long as the tone was recognized. 798069[/snapback] I agree with the sentiment of too much too soon, but I highly suspect mutiny. McKeon is too respected and liked by a lot of established Marlins (Castillo jumps to mind) to allow Mota to become the 2005 version of Dan Miceli...
June 6, 200521 yr I agree with the sentiment of too much too soon, but I highly suspect mutiny. McKeon is too respected and liked by a lot of established Marlins (Castillo jumps to mind) to allow Mota to become the 2005 version of Dan Miceli... 798072[/snapback] Dan lost all my respect when he made it his business to get Boles fired.
June 6, 200521 yr I agree with the sentiment of too much too soon, but I highly suspect mutiny.? McKeon is too respected and liked by a lot of established Marlins (Castillo jumps to mind) to allow Mota to become the 2005 version of Dan Miceli... 798072[/snapback] Dan lost all my respect when he made it his business to get Boles fired. 798075[/snapback] You and I hope about everyone else who calls themself a Marlins fan...
June 6, 200521 yr Yeah. I think a mutiny is highly unlikely, and Delgado, presented as a quiet player, would not be one to be leadng the charge so early in his tenure.
June 6, 200521 yr This is what I suspect was said: Delgado: Ok guys we need to.... Mota: Fire that redneck McKeon!!! :mad Castillo: *sits in corner quietly* :confused Delgado: No, maybe if you hadn't pitched like complete s*** he wouldn't have singled you out you ungrateful piece of s***. :mischief Mota: I am the best I must make money for my family it's my contract year, a-hole. :thumbup Enc: Eso mismo ese gringo es medio loco! :plain Leiter: Well well guys I might not speak spanish but I know what 'viejo loco' means. Just because I have a ERA over 7 doesn't mean I'm a crazy old man. Delgado: He wasn't talking about you. :plain Leiter: :plain Castillo: :plain Lowell: Callate Mota tu eres mierda. :mad Mota: *entire team*: :mischief Castillo: I play hard for McKeon because I love him. :mischief *team*: *sarcastic aws* :mischief
June 6, 200521 yr This is what I suspect was said: Delgado: Ok guys we need to.... Mota: Fire that redneck McKeon!!! :mad Castillo: *sits in corner quietly* :confused Delgado: No, maybe if you hadn't pitched like complete s*** he wouldn't have singled you out you ungrateful piece of s***. :mischief Mota: I am the best I must make money for my family it's my contract year, a-hole. :thumbup Enc: Eso mismo ese gringo es medio loco! :plain Leiter: Well well guys I might not speak spanish but I know what 'viejo loco' means. Just because I have a ERA over 7 doesn't mean I'm a crazy old man. Delgado: He wasn't talking about you. :plain Leiter: :plain Castillo: :plain Lowell: Callate Mota tu eres mierda. :mad Mota: *entire team*: :mischief Castillo: I play hard for McKeon because I love him. :mischief *team*: *sarcastic aws* :mischief 798191[/snapback] :lol
June 6, 200521 yr Nice to see Delgado show some leadership. I'm sure the intent of the meeting was to pull the team together and encourage them to continue to work through it. After all Delgado has a lot of experience dealing with tough times being with the Blue Jays all those years........
June 6, 200521 yr This is what I suspect was said: Delgado: Ok guys we need to.... Mota: Fire that redneck McKeon!!! :mad Castillo: *sits in corner quietly* :confused Delgado: No, maybe if you hadn't pitched like complete s*** he wouldn't have singled you out you ungrateful piece of s***. :mischief Mota: I am the best I must make money for my family it's my contract year, a-hole. :thumbup Enc: Eso mismo ese gringo es medio loco! :plain Leiter: Well well guys I might not speak spanish but I know what 'viejo loco' means. Just because I have a ERA over 7 doesn't mean I'm a crazy old man. Delgado: He wasn't talking about you. :plain Leiter: :plain Castillo: :plain Lowell: Callate Mota tu eres mierda. :mad Mota: *entire team*: :mischief Castillo: I play hard for McKeon because I love him. :mischief *team*: *sarcastic aws* :mischief 798191[/snapback] Lenny Harris: What YET?! Monsters out der, leakin' in here, all sinkin' and no power. When is yousa thinkin' wesa in trouble?!
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