August 16, 200322 yr Oh Fightin' Phils.... Umps cant lose their jobs because there's no F'ing authority over them...thats why they can call any play they feel like, toss out players in less than 2 seconds, and present a conflict of interest without having the pressure of being fired or punished for their actions. those plays were really close..... and any other ump wouldve called it differently. It is absurd how all those damn umps have all the power and no one to watch over them. Im not in favor of replays or anything like that, but once an ump makes obvious mistakes like that they should be fined or punished in some other way. DOWN WITH THE UNION!!
August 16, 200322 yr I think you are right CitanX, there has to be some figurehead to hold accountable for the actions of the umpires. I think this would help get things done by presenting the public with at least a face to go with the organization. I think the key thing with this Wolf fiasco is the perception though, not his missing calls. That is too subjective to make a judgement one way or the other.
August 16, 200322 yr Johnny, There is supposed to be a figure head, the MLB office. The problem is that they don't have enough control over those umpires. They had to actually argue with a court that Ques-Tec was legal in the contract. The results are Ques-Tec in some ballparks and not others. I say make life a living hell for those umps who make mistakes. Umps are human, that's why they shouldn't be the only authority to call games. We need the ability to have a video challenge.
August 16, 200322 yr DOWN WITH THE UNION!! Yeah Busto! :lol Unions suck.....all of them.....when they get too powerful anyways
August 16, 200322 yr Author who cares... i mean common.. Redman is not Jeremy Shockey... its always the girls that want to know all the gosip Since when are people's opinions on something the same as gossip? If you don't care, then why did you even come into the topic? Get a life...
August 16, 200322 yr Johnny, There is supposed to be a figure head, the MLB office. The problem is that they don't have enough control over those umpires. They had to actually argue with a court that Ques-Tec was legal in the contract. The results are Ques-Tec in some ballparks and not others. I say make life a living hell for those umps who make mistakes. Umps are human, that's why they shouldn't be the only authority to call games. We need the ability to have a video challenge. So then, the problem is not the MLB office, but the Umpire's Union which is too powerful to allow MLB to intervene with new evaluating tools? I dont know if this is such a bad thing though either, but if MLB had any brains, they would divert the attention to the head of the Umpire's Union (there is such a thing...right?) and put the pressure on them. MLB should be the sovreign over all matters related to baseball, but it seems that the game has become too fragmentary in its infrastructure to protect its own interests. As a result, there is too much job security and not enough competition (and innovation) perhaps. Interesting side issue to all of this, but it still does not have to do directly with the Wolf situation.
August 16, 200322 yr Didn't they break the ump's union in 1999? What MLB needs to do is just put in the evaluation tools. If the umps walk, let them. You can get new umps to replace the few that leave. They did something similar in 1999 and it was shown that the umps are NOT united.
August 16, 200322 yr What Redman did was unprofessional and uncalled for. Jim Wolf is one of the younger, more respected umpires in the league and for Redman to call him out like that is almost a bush league thing to do. Now granted, I saw the replay in which Wolf called Burnitz, i believe safe at first, botching that one call, but as I've found out in the past few weeks of Phillies games, umpires are humans and make mistakes (a lot of them). But to think that Jim Wolf, a professional umpire would make calls favoring the Dodgers because his brother's team is vying for the same spot the Marlins are is, in my opinion, uncalled for.
August 16, 200322 yr What Redman did was unprofessional and uncalled for. Jim Wolf is one of the younger, more respected umpires in the league and for Redman to call him out like that is almost a bush league thing to do. Now granted, I saw the replay in which Wolf called Burnitz, i believe safe at first, botching that one call, but as I've found out in the past few weeks of Phillies games, umpires are humans and make mistakes (a lot of them). But to think that Jim Wolf, a professional umpire would make calls favoring the Dodgers because his brother's team is vying for the same spot the Marlins are is, in my opinion, uncalled for. The matter in which Jim Wolf acted was unprofessional. A true professional tries to eliminate ANY temptation of a conflict of interest. it wouldn't be that difficult for him to get switched with an AL umpire. That would have been the honest and ethical thing to do. Redman is not at fault for pointing out Wolf's unethical behavior.
August 16, 200322 yr What Redman did was unprofessional and uncalled for. Jim Wolf is one of the younger, more respected umpires in the league and for Redman to call him out like that is almost a bush league thing to do. Now granted, I saw the replay in which Wolf called Burnitz, i believe safe at first, botching that one call, but as I've found out in the past few weeks of Phillies games, umpires are humans and make mistakes (a lot of them). But to think that Jim Wolf, a professional umpire would make calls favoring the Dodgers because his brother's team is vying for the same spot the Marlins are is, in my opinion, uncalled for. The matter in which Jim Wolf acted was unprofessional. A true professional tries to eliminate ANY temptation of a conflict of interest. it wouldn't be that difficult for him to get switched with an AL umpire. That would have been the honest and ethical thing to do. Redman is not at fault for pointing out Wolf's unethical behavior. I agree with you here. Redman is not at fault for pointing out mistakes that Jim Wolf made. But all umpires make mistakes every game, thats just the way it works. Now granted, this happens to be a coincidence that Wolf made at least 1 bad call and now he accused of "cheating". If Redman were to think these things to himself and share in the clubhouse, that is one thing, but, just in my opinion, to go public with these accusations is wrong. I wouldn't mind have Jim Wolf do only the AL, thats fine with me, but Wolf was filling in for another umpire in that series between the Dodgers and Marlins. Yes, there is a conflict of interst here, but Jim Wolf is a fine, upstanding man, and as we've said, a professional. His feelings towards his brother aren't going to interfere with the way he makes calls against his brother's rival.
August 16, 200322 yr I agree with you here. Redman is not at fault for pointing out mistakes that Jim Wolf made. But all umpires make mistakes every game, thats just the way it works. Now granted, this happens to be a coincidence that Wolf made at least 1 bad call and now he accused of "cheating". If Redman were to think these things to himself and share in the clubhouse, that is one thing, but, just in my opinion, to go public with these accusations is wrong. I wouldn't mind have Jim Wolf do only the AL, thats fine with me, but Wolf was filling in for another umpire in that series between the Dodgers and Marlins. Yes, there is a conflict of interst here, but Jim Wolf is a fine, upstanding man, and as we've said, a professional. His feelings towards his brother aren't going to interfere with the way he makes calls against his brother's rival. He was in the clubhouse. The way the press in Miami works is that they invade tghe clubhouse of all the teams and write down and record everything. He could have been talking to a teamate when he was quoted. I don't believe there is anything wrong with him saying that he had doubts about Wolf's view of objectivity. I had them as well. It doesn't help when you made 2 or 3 bad calls in one game. Wolf shouldn't have been there, just to eliminate any risk of him being falsely accused. The facts are they are siblings, Wolf made a couple of bad calls, and those calls hurt the Marlins. It just doesn't look right, because it isn't. Nothing to Wolf's objectivity, but he should have excused himself and gotten a reassignment to the AL.
August 16, 200322 yr from what i have read, Wolf has made some crappy calls against the Phils this year too
August 17, 200322 yr I agree with you here. Redman is not at fault for pointing out mistakes that Jim Wolf made. But all umpires make mistakes every game, thats just the way it works. Now granted, this happens to be a coincidence that Wolf made at least 1 bad call and now he accused of "cheating". If Redman were to think these things to himself and share in the clubhouse, that is one thing, but, just in my opinion, to go public with these accusations is wrong. I wouldn't mind have Jim Wolf do only the AL, thats fine with me, but Wolf was filling in for another umpire in that series between the Dodgers and Marlins. Yes, there is a conflict of interst here, but Jim Wolf is a fine, upstanding man, and as we've said, a professional. His feelings towards his brother aren't going to interfere with the way he makes calls against his brother's rival. He was in the clubhouse. The way the press in Miami works is that they invade tghe clubhouse of all the teams and write down and record everything. He could have been talking to a teamate when he was quoted. I don't believe there is anything wrong with him saying that he had doubts about Wolf's view of objectivity. I had them as well. It doesn't help when you made 2 or 3 bad calls in one game. Wolf shouldn't have been there, just to eliminate any risk of him being falsely accused. The facts are they are siblings, Wolf made a couple of bad calls, and those calls hurt the Marlins. It just doesn't look right, because it isn't. Nothing to Wolf's objectivity, but he should have excused himself and gotten a reassignment to the AL. Cape, You don't get it. He was a sub ump meaning he either is follows what he is told or he goes back to AAA because another ump will be glad to take his place. Is that really so hard to understand?
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