If we get to .500 (obviously a lofty goal anyway you look at it), does the FO make a move for a CF (or other) with an expiring contract?

 

You have to think that will invigorate fans and help out Loria's ultimate cause.

Why? This team is building for the future, why get a cf with an expiring contract?

I doubt it. Ross and Mezzy are playing too well.

 

I'd seriously consider starting Helms at LF more often too. Move Hermida to CF and Willingham to RF.

 

Our defence would be HORRIBLE, but could you imagine a line-up of:

 

Hanley

Uggla

Jake

Cabs

Hammer

Helms

Hermida

Olivo

Pitcher

 

*drool*

Why? This team is building for the future, why get a cf with an expiring contract?

 

for contention purposes. If we are at .500 by July 31st, that means we are on a serious roll. Why not consider it? Nothing better for a team of the future than to get a taste of competitive baseball in August/Sept

 

And that's the only player the FO would trade for considering the cost-cutting measures they've already taken.

If they are to .500 by the deadline then they will be playing incredibly competitive baseball. I don't understand your logic Lefty...

Because Hermida should not play in CF due to injuries.

If they are to .500 by the deadline then they will be playing incredibly competitive baseball. I don't understand your logic Lefty...

 

Because they have an obvious hole in center field. And bringing in a vet (or just an above-average player) could help.

 

They are playing great right now, but we know they aren't complete.

 

And the deadline is when teams are trying to unload players for youth--something we have an abundance (if not surplus) of in certain positions (cough pitcher cough)

 

I was just considering. Loria always has that 'special money'. He's not a moron. If this team is competing come end of July, he'll be talking with some teams I think. And if they are at or near .500 I cannot see them trading Train.

Seriously, when will you all get it that we're talking about the 7 AND 8 HOLE HITTERS!

 

There doesn't need to be a superstar at every position. Reggie plays good enough D for my taste, Borchard (who I think should play more) and Ross both can get into one if given the chance. That's fine by me.

Seriously, when will you all get it that we're talking about the 7 AND 8 HOLE HITTERS!

 

There doesn't need to be a superstar at every position. Reggie plays good enough D for my taste, Borchard (who I think should play more) and Ross both can get into one if given the chance. That's fine by me.

 

You're only talking about 7 and 8 because that is where they are playing now. Doesn't mean that's where a potential pick up would hit.

 

And I don't want a superstar (far too expensive). As far as I'm concerned, we only have one superstar in the lineup (many teams have more).

 

But we don't even have an MLB-able player in CF right now. It's a rotating door.

Seriously, when will you all get it that we're talking about the 7 AND 8 HOLE HITTERS!

 

There doesn't need to be a superstar at every position. Reggie plays good enough D for my taste, Borchard (who I think should play more) and Ross both can get into one if given the chance. That's fine by me.

 

You're only talking about 7 and 8 because that is where they are playing now. Doesn't mean that's where a potential pick up would hit.

 

So then you're implying that you're unhappy with Jacobs, Willingham, Hermida, Uggla, Ramirez, Cabrera...? Because by the power of suggestion you're saying that the new acquisition should take their spot in the lineup.

 

And if you think they Marlins are going to pay the prospect price for a guy who can play good centerfield and hit in the middle of the lineup, then I've got ocean front property in Arizon to sell you.

Seriously, when will you all get it that we're talking about the 7 AND 8 HOLE HITTERS!

 

There doesn't need to be a superstar at every position. Reggie plays good enough D for my taste, Borchard (who I think should play more) and Ross both can get into one if given the chance. That's fine by me.

 

You're only talking about 7 and 8 because that is where they are playing now. Doesn't mean that's where a potential pick up would hit.

 

So then you're implying that you're unhappy with Jacobs, Willingham, Hermida, Uggla, Ramirez, Cabrera...? Because by the power of suggestion you're saying that the new acquisition should take their spot in the lineup.

 

And if you think they Marlins are going to pay the prospect price for a guy who can play good centerfield and hit in the middle of the lineup, then I've got ocean front property in Arizon to sell you.

What makes you sold on Jacobs, Willy and Hermida? They are rookies. I love all of them, but you can't just cement them in their spots and say that's that.

 

I never said middle of the lineup--in fact I didn't say that said player WOULDN'T hit 7th or 8th. You are putting words into my mouth. Very well played.

Wouldn't that go against how you would have gotten to a competitve level anyways?

 

No need to trade prospects when you are a team winning full of prospects.

 

Besides Lefty you need to get a hold of yourself. The Marlins are playing good baseball, but they still have a long way to go.

 

 

 

 

Seriously, when will you all get it that we're talking about the 7 AND 8 HOLE HITTERS!

 

There doesn't need to be a superstar at every position. Reggie plays good enough D for my taste, Borchard (who I think should play more) and Ross both can get into one if given the chance. That's fine by me.

 

You're only talking about 7 and 8 because that is where they are playing now. Doesn't mean that's where a potential pick up would hit.

 

So then you're implying that you're unhappy with Jacobs, Willingham, Hermida, Uggla, Ramirez, Cabrera...? Because by the power of suggestion you're saying that the new acquisition should take their spot in the lineup.

 

And if you think they Marlins are going to pay the prospect price for a guy who can play good centerfield and hit in the middle of the lineup, then I've got ocean front property in Arizon to sell you.

What makes you sold on Jacobs, Willy and Hermida? They are rookies. I love all of them, but you can't just cement them in their spots and say that's that.

 

Lefty that is the entire point of this season. To see what people can do.

This is just one man's opinion meant to stir up some friendly debate and discussion. If you disagree, I'm fine with that. I'm not self-indulgent enough to believe that I can't be wrong.

Seriously, when will you all get it that we're talking about the 7 AND 8 HOLE HITTERS!

 

There doesn't need to be a superstar at every position. Reggie plays good enough D for my taste, Borchard (who I think should play more) and Ross both can get into one if given the chance. That's fine by me.

 

You're only talking about 7 and 8 because that is where they are playing now. Doesn't mean that's where a potential pick up would hit.

 

So then you're implying that you're unhappy with Jacobs, Willingham, Hermida, Uggla, Ramirez, Cabrera...? Because by the power of suggestion you're saying that the new acquisition should take their spot in the lineup.

 

And if you think they Marlins are going to pay the prospect price for a guy who can play good centerfield and hit in the middle of the lineup, then I've got ocean front property in Arizon to sell you.

What makes you sold on Jacobs, Willy and Hermida? They are rookies. I love all of them, but you can't just cement them in their spots and say that's that.

 

I never said middle of the lineup--in fact I didn't say that said player WOULDN'T hit 7th or 8th. You are putting words into my mouth. Very well played.

 

If all you're looking for is a 7 or 8 hole hitter, then we're set. Olivo and Abercrombie are about a wash in my eyes for help/hurt the team.

 

There's no need to pay a hefty price to move laterally.

You must really respect my posting. I do appreciate your responses.

there's a difference between a #8 hitter who plays centerfield and a black hole in the lineup like Abercrombie

 

that being said, unless we go on a ridiculous run, I wouldn't trade for one

there's a difference between a #8 hitter who plays centerfield and a black hole in the lineup like Abercrombie

 

that being said, unless we go on a ridiculous run, I wouldn't trade for one

 

I agree. But if we did go on said ridiculous run, what do you think? This is obviously hypothetical, because even I have my doubts.

there's a difference between a #8 hitter who plays centerfield and a black hole in the lineup like Abercrombie

 

that being said, unless we go on a ridiculous run, I wouldn't trade for one

 

I agree. But if we did go on said ridiculous run, what do you think? This is obviously hypothetical, because even I have my doubts. if we're over .500 by the all star break and Reggie sitll looks like he has no clue, I think i may be willing to go out and get a good veteran centerfielder, especially one who has some years left considering the lack of depth we have in the minors when it comes to CFers. Problem is i can't really think of someone who fits the bill. Reggie Sanders might be a little too pricey for this team, but that's the kind of lines i'd be thinking on, since we have versatility in the outfield with hermida and all.

Let me do some quick math regarding our situation from now until July 30th.

there's a difference between a #8 hitter who plays centerfield and a black hole in the lineup like Abercrombie

 

that being said, unless we go on a ridiculous run, I wouldn't trade for one

 

I agree. But if we did go on said ridiculous run, what do you think? This is obviously hypothetical, because even I have my doubts. if we're over .500 by the all star break and Reggie sitll looks like he has no clue, I think i may be willing to go out and get a good veteran centerfielder, especially one who has some years left considering the lack of depth we have in the minors when it comes to CFers. Problem is i can't really think of someone who fits the bill. Reggie Sanders might be a little too pricey for this team, but that's the kind of lines i'd be thinking on, since we have versatility in the outfield with hermida and all.

Reggie Sanders doesn't play CF.

 

Right now nobody comes to mind, but by mid July it will be clear who is available and who is not.

40 games until July 31st. We play some difficult opponents, but also have some cheapies in between.

 

To get to .500 in those 40 games, we must go 26-14 until then. Not impossible--improbable of course, but not impossible the way we are playing.

there's a difference between a #8 hitter who plays centerfield and a black hole in the lineup like Abercrombie

 

that being said, unless we go on a ridiculous run, I wouldn't trade for one

 

I agree. But if we did go on said ridiculous run, what do you think? This is obviously hypothetical, because even I have my doubts. if we're over .500 by the all star break and Reggie sitll looks like he has no clue, I think i may be willing to go out and get a good veteran centerfielder, especially one who has some years left considering the lack of depth we have in the minors when it comes to CFers. Problem is i can't really think of someone who fits the bill. Reggie Sanders might be a little too pricey for this team, but that's the kind of lines i'd be thinking on, since we have versatility in the outfield with hermida and all.

Reggie Sanders doesn't play CF.

 

Right now nobody comes to mind, but by mid July it will be clear who is available and who is not. but hermida can, thats what I was referring to when I was talking about his versatility

 

40 games until July 31st. We play some difficult opponents, but also have some cheapies in between.

 

To get to .500 in those 40 games, we must go 26-14 until then. Not impossible--improbable of course, but not impossible the way we are playing.

looking at some of the teams we're playing, it'll be closer to impossible than improbable methinks

 

but hey, crazier things have happenned

there's a difference between a #8 hitter who plays centerfield and a black hole in the lineup like Abercrombie

 

that being said, unless we go on a ridiculous run, I wouldn't trade for one

 

I agree. But if we did go on said ridiculous run, what do you think? This is obviously hypothetical, because even I have my doubts. if we're over .500 by the all star break and Reggie sitll looks like he has no clue, I think i may be willing to go out and get a good veteran centerfielder, especially one who has some years left considering the lack of depth we have in the minors when it comes to CFers. Problem is i can't really think of someone who fits the bill. Reggie Sanders might be a little too pricey for this team, but that's the kind of lines i'd be thinking on, since we have versatility in the outfield with hermida and all.

Reggie Sanders doesn't play CF.

 

Right now nobody comes to mind, but by mid July it will be clear who is available and who is not. but hermida can, thats what I was referring to when I was talking about his versatility

No he can't, not everyday.

 

He has a hard enough time staying healthy as it is, playing CF (especially at DS) would kill his legs.

there's a difference between a #8 hitter who plays centerfield and a black hole in the lineup like Abercrombie

 

that being said, unless we go on a ridiculous run, I wouldn't trade for one

 

I agree. But if we did go on said ridiculous run, what do you think? This is obviously hypothetical, because even I have my doubts. if we're over .500 by the all star break and Reggie sitll looks like he has no clue, I think i may be willing to go out and get a good veteran centerfielder, especially one who has some years left considering the lack of depth we have in the minors when it comes to CFers. Problem is i can't really think of someone who fits the bill. Reggie Sanders might be a little too pricey for this team, but that's the kind of lines i'd be thinking on, since we have versatility in the outfield with hermida and all.

Reggie Sanders doesn't play CF.

 

Right now nobody comes to mind, but by mid July it will be clear who is available and who is not. but hermida can, thats what I was referring to when I was talking about his versatility

 

40 games until July 31st. We play some difficult opponents, but also have some cheapies in between.

 

To get to .500 in those 40 games, we must go 26-14 until then. Not impossible--improbable of course, but not impossible the way we are playing.

looking at some of the teams we're playing, it'll be closer to impossible than improbable methinks

 

but hey, crazier things have happenned

I'm looking at a nice 11 game homestand in the middle of July (13-23) against Hou, ATL and Phi that could be the decider in that respect. I think we could go 8-3 there.

 

Yes, but it's all just wishful thinking. It's nice to talk about though.

there's a difference between a #8 hitter who plays centerfield and a black hole in the lineup like Abercrombie

 

that being said, unless we go on a ridiculous run, I wouldn't trade for one

 

I agree. But if we did go on said ridiculous run, what do you think? This is obviously hypothetical, because even I have my doubts. if we're over .500 by the all star break and Reggie sitll looks like he has no clue, I think i may be willing to go out and get a good veteran centerfielder, especially one who has some years left considering the lack of depth we have in the minors when it comes to CFers. Problem is i can't really think of someone who fits the bill. Reggie Sanders might be a little too pricey for this team, but that's the kind of lines i'd be thinking on, since we have versatility in the outfield with hermida and all.

Reggie Sanders doesn't play CF.

 

Right now nobody comes to mind, but by mid July it will be clear who is available and who is not. but hermida can, thats what I was referring to when I was talking about his versatility

No he can't, not everyday.

 

He has a hard enough time staying healthy as it is, playing CF (especially at DS) would kill his legs. i think he could do it, but i guess that's just a difference in opinion

 

especially if he had a capable back up where he can play in right some days, since the injuries are an issue with him so far