July 30, 200620 yr So, I saw this idea on another board and thought it'd be kinda cool if the Marlins could get something like this done. We trade: 2 pitching prospects (one good, one average, something like West and Bostick) We receive: Alfonso Soriano Assume that everything works out just peachy or even semi-peachy (read: playoffs/WS), I think we're in a good spot. I am well aware we would not be able to afford to re-sign him, but that's not really a problem IMO. We offer the guy arby which he will almost certainly reject in order to test the open market, he gets a big deal from one of the usual suspects and we take their first rounder and a comp pick so we essentially get Soriano for the stretch run, a ring, and two uber-prospects in exchange for one great prospect and one so-so guy. I'm not really certain that Bowden would take a deal like that, but who knows, just an idea that's been going through my head lately. Willingham appears to be coming out of his slump, but him and Ross could split time in LF and you could even put Soriano in CF if you're up for the adventure and his offense is pretty darn good and his OBP is surprisingly good. Heck, we could even put Soriano in LF, keep Ross in CF, and have Willy catch from time to time. I know the chances of this happening are about the same chances as Reggie Abercrombie having a 3 BB game, but I'm bored and how about a little food for thought?
July 30, 200620 yr stranger things have happened... on a diff note, Soriano and the Nats have agreed on a contract BUT they cant agree on the no trade clause... Stan Kasten(Nats President) refuses to do that, and that is the breaking point at this time
July 30, 200620 yr Acquiring Soriano would be awesome, but realistically it's going to take more than West and Bostick. I'd say it would take Willingham, Petit and one of our top A arms. I'd still do it though, because I believe with him in the line-up we'd be so much more dangerous, as he'd offer some protection for Cabrera. Then again, if I had the chance at Crawford or Soriano I'd still take Crawford, as we could have him for years to come.
July 30, 200620 yr Honestly I'd rather trade Volstad over West at this point...but that's just me. Either would be fine in this case (for Soriano) however.
July 30, 200620 yr Pfft,wish that were to happen,but in Marlin land that is obviously not going to happen. It looks like Abreu to the Yankees, Soriano to the Angels and Tejada to somewhere. Or maybe not. Jayson Stark's head is spinning from the activity as Monday's deadline nears.-ESPN
July 30, 200620 yr stranger things have happened... on a diff note, Soriano and the Nats have agreed on a contract BUT they cant agree on the no trade clause... Stan Kasten(Nats President) refuses to do that, and that is the breaking point at this time Who's your source? I've read that they've agreed to talk. They haven't proposed numbers. So essentially they haven't agreed to anything.
July 30, 200620 yr stranger things have happened... on a diff note, Soriano and the Nats have agreed on a contract BUT they cant agree on the no trade clause... Stan Kasten(Nats President) refuses to do that, and that is the breaking point at this time Who's your source? I've read that they've agreed to talk. They haven't proposed numbers. So essentially they haven't agreed to anything. my source is one of the owners of the team
July 31, 200620 yr we surely have the prospects to get it done, but I doubt the marlins will want to give them up for Soriano.
July 31, 200620 yr So, I saw this idea on another board and thought it'd be kinda cool if the Marlins could get something like this done. We trade: 2 pitching prospects (one good, one average, something like West and Bostick) We receive: Alfonso Soriano Assume that everything works out just peachy or even semi-peachy (read: playoffs/WS), I think we're in a good spot. I am well aware we would not be able to afford to re-sign him, but that's not really a problem IMO. We offer the guy arby which he will almost certainly reject in order to test the open market, he gets a big deal from one of the usual suspects and we take their first rounder and a comp pick so we essentially get Soriano for the stretch run, a ring, and two uber-prospects in exchange for one great prospect and one so-so guy. I'm not really certain that Bowden would take a deal like that, but who knows, just an idea that's been going through my head lately. Willingham appears to be coming out of his slump, but him and Ross could split time in LF and you could even put Soriano in CF if you're up for the adventure and his offense is pretty darn good and his OBP is surprisingly good. Heck, we could even put Soriano in LF, keep Ross in CF, and have Willy catch from time to time. I know the chances of this happening are about the same chances as Reggie Abercrombie having a 3 BB game, but I'm bored and how about a little food for thought? That's a hell of a risk to take just to make the playoffs or make some noise in the playoffs! The only way we're going to get into the playoffs ispitching and Soriano or not if we don't pitch well we're not going to make the playoffs and with these past three games, Soriano wouldn't have even made a smidge of a difference.
July 31, 200620 yr wow... The Washington Post says the Angels, Astros, Twins and Marlins are currently involved in the bidding for Alfonso Soriano. The Marlins? Florida is reportedly willing to part with young pitchers Yusmeiro Petit, Renyel Pinto and Jason Vargas to land Soriano. It would seem to be the height of foolishness on their part, but if it's a serious offer, they can't be completely discounted. The Dodgers and another team or two still could be involved as this one goes right down to the 4 p.m. EDT deadline. I'll glady pull the trigger on that one.
July 31, 200620 yr Here's the "TSwift fair trade evaluator." We'd have to part with one of: Type A: Willingham, West, Thompson, Petit One of Type B: Pinto, Volstad, Garcia And one of Type C: Vargas, Retsko, Mildren. I'd do it. Plus, I see no reason to believe that we couldn't resign Alfonso, or that he wouldn't want to stay here. Even factoring in all the money we'd be owing to arby raises, we could still give Soriano his 4/$52 deal and be under the reasonable salary threshold quite comfortably, all while adding a world class player to a team that could use him to be quite possibly one of the scariest team in the league for the duration of his contract.
July 31, 200620 yr Here's the "TSwift fair trade evaluator." We'd have to part with one of: Type A: Willingham, West, Thompson, Petit One of Type B: Pinto, Volstad, Garcia And one of Type C: Vargas, Retsko, Mildren. I'd do it. Plus, I see no reason to believe that we couldn't resign Alfonso, or that he wouldn't want to stay here. Even factoring in all the money we'd be owing to arby raises, we could still give Soriano his 4/$52 deal and be under the reasonable salary threshold quite comfortably, all while adding a world class player to a team that could use him to be quite possibly one of the scariest team in the league for the duration of his contract. Yes to Pinto, Vargas, Petit but resigning Soriano? ahh... :blink: Supposely he wants to sign with a team that will use him at 2B. Also no way 4/52 million for Soriano :thumbdown I wouldn't mind if the Soriano deal expanded to something like this: Soriano Everts Church for G. Hernandez Pinto Petit Pnto
July 31, 200620 yr Oh...wow. Fritz is....the man? If they think we won't resign him, I definitely think the Nats would seriously consider an offer we have.
July 31, 200620 yr Two months of Soriano means a better than decent chance at the playoffs and compensatory draft picks. If Petit was replaced in the deal for a lesser arm, I'd probably do it.
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