I think defense is where we missed Girardi and Perry Hill the most.

 

False on all accounts.

 

 

 

It would make for better reading if you explained why it is false on all accounts.

 

I'm just going to throw this out there as I have before. IF the defense were such an overwhelming problem, we'd be in the middle of the league in terms of earned-runs allowed.

 

It's just incomprehensible for me to blame a defense when we're #1 in the league in walks allowed and #2 in earned runs allowed, neither of which has ANYTHING to do with the defense. Since, you know, quantifiable pitching stats generally don't punish the pitching for defensive short comings, since that's what EARNED runs is all about.

Poor defensive range leads to extra EARNED runs allowed.

 

Several of our players have very poor range (we're last in the league in DER) which means they don't make a boatload of plays an average fielder would make and many of the plays not made aren't classified as "errors" and that means many of the extra runs allowed because of the poor range end up as EARNED runs.

I don't even think it's only that. How many times have we had a error or two on what should have been the last out, then have the pitcher try to be perfect, throw a few meatballs, and let the other team have a huge inning. I, and from what I've seen others on this forum, am convinced that one of the reason our pitchers have been giving up so many runs is because they don't trust their defense to get the putout if the ball is put in play. Any pitcher that thinks they have to be perfect and throw nothing but strikeouts to get an out will never have a low ERA.

 

Because of the overly liberal "earned run" allowed rules, if that instance you outline were to happen (as in last out being thrown away) the following run(s) are unearned.

 

Sorry.

I think defense is where we missed Girardi and Perry Hill the most.

 

False on all accounts.

 

 

 

It would make for better reading if you explained why it is false on all accounts.

 

I meant it in the way that we've only made a few more errors than last year's team, even though last year we had hill.

I think defense is where we missed Girardi and Perry Hill the most.

 

False on all accounts.

 

 

 

It would make for better reading if you explained why it is false on all accounts.

 

I'm just going to throw this out there as I have before. IF the defense were such an overwhelming problem, we'd be in the middle of the league in terms of earned-runs allowed.

 

It's just incomprehensible for me to blame a defense when we're #1 in the league in walks allowed and #2 in earned runs allowed, neither of which has ANYTHING to do with the defense. Since, you know, quantifiable pitching stats generally don't punish the pitching for defensive short comings, since that's what EARNED runs is all about.

 

 

Poor defensive range leads to extra EARNED runs allowed.

 

Several of our players have very poor range (we're last in the league in DER) which means they don't make a boatload of plays an average fielder would make and many of the plays not made aren't classified as "errors" and that means many of the extra runs allowed because of the poor range end up as EARNED runs.

I don't even think it's only that. How many times have we had a error or two on what should have been the last out, then have the pitcher try to be perfect, throw a few meatballs, and let the other team have a huge inning. I, and from what I've seen others on this forum, am convinced that one of the reason our pitchers have been giving up so many runs is because they don't trust their defense to get the putout if the ball is put in play. Any pitcher that thinks they have to be perfect and throw nothing but strikeouts to get an out will never have a low ERA.

 

Because of the overly liberal "earned run" allowed rules, if that instance you outline were to happen (as in last out being thrown away) the following run(s) are unearned.

 

Sorry.

I never said they weren't. I am fully aware of what constitutes an earned run. Part one, the example, was used to explain part two, why they don't trust their defense. What I said was that they always try to be perfect because of the kind of things that happen in the example.

 

Sorry.