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Thats what I figured but I was hoping the Orioles could be the team to get the steal for once and I cant hear that radio station here.

Someone posted this on the Orioles message board, has anyone heard anything about it? http://orioles.mostvaluablenetwork.com/ori...inning-formula/ scroll down to comment #11

The Red Sox would get Mike Cameron too they said.

Huff has tons of potential. Not the best fielder, but the guy can rake. 879258[/snapback] He will look like Willie Mays compared to Manny.

Is the Marlins' thought process now, hang on and see what happens before making a move? Gammons: If a team could offer a package of a pitcher who's 75-80% of AJ, a reliever, and someone who could help them in the future, they would probably make the deal. But barring that, they are still in the race. They are not in f******e mode. -Bad blood between the ownership of the Marlins and Red Sox hindering talks on any Burnett deal there. -White Sox still in the conversation, but it's unknown if they'd be willing to give up a package of Marte, McCarthy, Anderson when AJ probably would still go to free agency. 875075[/snapback] Then why cant the Marlins trade with the Orioles. Julio is the reliever, Penn helps in the future and Ponson is about 300% of Burnett. 875141[/snapback] i hope you mean that ponson is 300% of AJ in terms of girth and mass.... 875156[/snapback] Of course

Is the Marlins' thought process now, hang on and see what happens before making a move? Gammons: If a team could offer a package of a pitcher who's 75-80% of AJ, a reliever, and someone who could help them in the future, they would probably make the deal. But barring that, they are still in the race. They are not in f******e mode. -Bad blood between the ownership of the Marlins and Red Sox hindering talks on any Burnett deal there. -White Sox still in the conversation, but it's unknown if they'd be willing to give up a package of Marte, McCarthy, Anderson when AJ probably would still go to free agency. 875075[/snapback] Then why cant the Marlins trade with the Orioles. Julio is the reliever, Penn helps in the future and Ponson is about 300% of Burnett.

That jackass reporter said the Orioles released Steve Kline and I got all excited, he is still on the team though.

Buster Olney said on ESPNEWS that the Orioles and Marlins are still trying to work something out. 872018[/snapback] Probably because Nevin will reject the trade. 872023[/snapback] probably

Buster Olney said on ESPNEWS that the Orioles and Marlins are still trying to work something out.

How much Offense do the O's really need? They are turning into the Rangers of the East. I mean you'd think that this line up would be good enough the way it is, how many potential 20-30 HR, 100 RBI guys does a team need? Sosa, Palmiero, Mora, Gibbons, Nevin, Tejada?... and Brian Roberts isn't playing to shabby either. Unless the Orioles are going to move Nevin, or one of those other guys they will be stuck in 3rd place until they get some quality pitching. 871746[/snapback] The offense is what has been losing the majority of the games for about the last month.I dont care what you guys say, I'm not going to let you rain on my parade, Sidney Ponson might be gone! 871749[/snapback] Bamer so you would rather spend the 11mil on a okay 1st baseman then on a decent starter?Seriously the O's are not going to make the playoffs without pitching they have Sox,Yankees,Blue Jays,Twins,Anaheim,Chicago and Oakland who all have a better pitching staff than the O's.There are only 4 teams that are going to make it to the dance and the only chance they have is the wildcard.My bet is the the Wild card is not coming from the East this year Minnesota will take the final spot.The White Sox and Angels are locks barring a major disaster on either of those teams.You gotta believe either Boston or NewYork are going to take the East.I don't think the O's will last in the race witout some decent pitching. Expecially with no ACE. 871772[/snapback] I would rather spend the money on a decent pitcher but that wasnt an option, it was an OK bat or a poor starting pitcher.

Well, I mean if Nevin was the ONLY guy in the entire major leagues that you could trade for, then yes, I get it... 871755[/snapback] The only other potential deal that I heard about was Ponson for Richard Hidalgo and the Orioles would have to pay most of Ponson's contract.

How much Offense do the O's really need? They are turning into the Rangers of the East. I mean you'd think that this line up would be good enough the way it is, how many potential 20-30 HR, 100 RBI guys does a team need? Sosa, Palmiero, Mora, Gibbons, Nevin, Tejada?... and Brian Roberts isn't playing to shabby either. Unless the Orioles are going to move Nevin, or one of those other guys they will be stuck in 3rd place until they get some quality pitching. 871746[/snapback] The offense is what has been losing the majority of the games for about the last month.I dont care what you guys say, I'm not going to let you rain on my parade, Sidney Ponson might be gone!

That's a lot of money for a DH who's OPS is close to Sosa's. 871737[/snapback] I'd rather pay it to Nevin than to a starting pitcher with an ERA over 6

"Phil doesn't want to go anywhere," Axelrod told TSN. "He's from this area. He's building a new home in San Diego. He has three children in school here. His parents attend a good portion of the games -- they live 80 or 90 miles up the road. San Diego is where he wants to be." http://www.sportingnews.com/experts/ken-ro.../20050723a.html 871732[/snapback] WOW!!Does anyone want to play for the O's??????You have to wonder what the hell the O's FO is thinking.They are looking more and more desperate as the days go by. 871738[/snapback] Nevin doesnt want to go anywhere, I wouldnt say this mean nobody wants to play for the O's

Jeff Weaver? Check out his numbers versus the Sox. And the Yankees, another patient team, will likely far just as well. And how, exactly, does Nevin help the offense? Where's he gonna play? Over Palmiero and his nearly 850 OPS? Nevin's OPS is like 710...lower than Jeff Conine. 871734[/snapback] Weaver's numbers vs. the Sox and Yankees are similar to Ponson's numbers vs. everybody lol. Nevin will take at bats away from Admin Bigbie mostly and Sammy Sosa.

"Phil doesn't want to go anywhere," Axelrod told TSN. "He's from this area. He's building a new home in San Diego. He has three children in school here. His parents attend a good portion of the games -- they live 80 or 90 miles up the road. San Diego is where he wants to be." http://www.sportingnews.com/experts/ken-ro.../20050723a.html

Or a Bigbie for Mark Redman could be coming.

Well, they have no room for Lowell now. Maybe the one thing we've haven't about is this: The O's simply don't know what they're doing and don't know how to react in a pennant race. 871721[/snapback] Why because they traded one of the worst starting pitchers in the majors for Phil Nevin? They are going to make another deal, probably for Jeff Weaver. Even if they dont, Nevin is an uppgrade to the offense and Penn or John Maine would be an upgrade over Ponson.

Steve Phillips was on WFAN ESPN Radio in New York, he thinks the deal was to open a spot in the rotation for Burnett...I really dont know

Burnett will still be dealt...You should be happy that Ponson is going to the other end of the country though

I dont know the financial terms of this deal , so Im not going to say I think the Orioles are still in the Burnett chase or not, but I think a deal for a pitcher for the Orioles will follow this up shortly.

Sidney Ponson traded for Phil Nevin.

Reports yesterday said the White Sox werent going to trade Marte...Who knows.....

I've heard that a lot about his bat speed, but I don't know that I agree with it. Given, I know a lot less about hitting than any ML scout or anything, but I don't think bat speed is Lowell's problem. I still see him turn on the inside fastball pretty often and rip it foul. If anybody watched the Wednesday game on ESPN I think what Tony Gwynn was saying is dead on. He's sorta starting his weight shifting too early and as a result his swing is outta whack and he can't wait as long on pitches. 871619[/snapback] Ripping a fastball foul would indicate that he swung a little too late.

If a deal happens I see Ponson going to Texas for either Hidalgo or a prospect and then the Orioles taking on most of Lowell's contract and Burnett, unless the Marlins decide they will take Ponson if they are losing Lowell's contract.