FutureGM Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 I say we get a B overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamarlins3 Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 nothing special, but nothing horrible. I really like the pickup of the CB from USC. Forgot his name, but I think this guy can change his attitude and be a damn good safety or dime CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaq-Man Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 a big ol' D. C would be generous because it'd mean our draft was "average" i wasn't a fan of giving up a 4th rounder to draft vernon carey, the guy who has been walking around hearing "crackling noises" from his ankles for the past year. and apparently we got shafted in our trade of a 3rd rounder for 4th and 5th round picks on most draft boards, pointwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 i think carey comes in right away and so does pape....and will poole from usc is a steal if he can behave ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Here's my take: The O-line is going to still suck, with or without Carey, so it was a waste to trade up for him, especially when we could have taken Udezee as Ogunleye insurance or Wilfork to make our D-line sick. Poole could be the steal of the draft IF he behaves and gets his act together. Talent wise alone he was one of the top 3 corners in the draft, and having him only have to play in dime formations is going to get his confidence up because there won't be too many chances for him to screw up. I gave it a C because it didn't make me excited, and we didn't really come away with all that much quality. If Philly didn't take Andrews and we did I think this is a different story, but I still don't agree with trading up for Carey... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TarHeel324 Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 i think carey comes in right away and so does pape....and will poole from usc is a steal if he can behave ..... poole's troubles are prob behind him he got arrested while at BC for theft but has stayed out of trouble at USC we got O-Line help and a steal. im satisfied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odom006 Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 i think carey comes in right away and so does pape....and will poole from usc is a steal if he can behave ..... poole's troubles are prob behind him he got arrested while at BC for theft but has stayed out of trouble at USC we got O-Line help and a steal. im satisfied perfrectly put....... i think the O line has been addressed...... if carey came out last year would he not be a top 10 pick????? instead he played 1 more year changed postions and wasnt as good as he was last year..... im happy i wantted carey more than i wantted Andrews..... and pape is raw as well...... i see a simms and webb combo all ova again...... and Madison needs to watch out 4 his job..... we got buddy from the panthers and now will poole..... man it's as if the D gets better and better..... i figure we the a super bowl caliber team..... and now we wait to see who the best O line men gets cut on June 1st and a WR I still think we need just 1 more O line men and 1 fast ass WR..... than everything will be perfect and we go 15-1 next year with a bye, and home field and win it all..... than again it's only April ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureGM Posted April 26, 2004 Author Share Posted April 26, 2004 I think that the worst part was we were tricked into believing that the team in front of us was going to take Carey, so they managed to steal a 4th round pick from us for basically nothing. That hurt most of all. What I didn't understand was why we didn't draft even one receiver out of this WR-laden draft class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGreatOne Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Not a big fan of Carey and wasnt very happy when I found out we traded a pick just to move up a spot in the draft because they thought the Vikings were going to take him which wasnt their plan, they conned the Dolphins into it. The guy I really like is Will Poole and he looks like he could be a steal in the draft. Some mock boards had him going as high as the late 1st round most had him going in the 2nd Round so drafting him in the 4th was a steal. I'll give it a C+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMLinkinPark Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 I think the Patriots are better the the Phins. then again tis only april. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest marlins02 Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 it wasnt that we thought minnesota was going to take carey, i heard that it was believed that 2 teams (one is the pats the other possibly being the cowboys) were talking to the vikes about moving up to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minus Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 Poole = Steal of the draft Overall grade = B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlub Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 Poole= CHARACTER PROBLEM, and very slow. There's a reason he slid to the 4th round. I give the Fins draft a C-. Picking Carey I gave a B, but they didn't have to trade up to get him, Minnesota was gonna take Udeze anyway. So it puzzle's me then why the Fins sacrificed their draft for Carey. But they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sals Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 Poole= CHARACTER PROBLEM, and very slow. There's a reason he slid to the 4th round. In the past and his speed is fine. He had a virus when he ran in the 4.6 range and lost 10 pounds during the week, yet ran anyway. He ran a 4.5 in his campus workout. He is a great CB and was rated higher than both of your CBs on several draft lists by some experts. For a 4th round pick, it is a steal. You would be singing high praises if the Pack took him in round 4. Character problems? He stole something 4 years ago and has been clean ever since, everyone since has given him glowing recommendations. Picking Carey I gave a B, but they didn't have to trade up to get him, Minnesota was gonna take Udeze anyway. So it puzzle's me then why the Fins sacrificed their draft for Carey. But they did. Well let me solve this puzzle for you. Dallas was trying to trade up, along with one other team, to leap frog Miami and select Carey when Andrews went off the board at 16. Carey has great potential and is the mamoth run blocker we need for Ricky Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minus Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Poole= CHARACTER PROBLEM, and very slow.? There's a reason he slid to the 4th round. I give the Fins draft a C-. Picking Carey I gave a B, but they didn't have to trade up to get him, Minnesota was gonna take Udeze anyway. So it puzzle's me then why the Fins sacrificed their draft for Carey.? But they did. Sacrafice draft?The Dolphins had to react fast even if teams were bluffing.Giving up a 4th round pick is a sacrafice? :lol BTW Surtain and Mardison ran same range as a healthy Poole which is 4.5 speed range.Being a great corner is about techninques not just speed.Poole certainly has tools to be great corner if he keep his attitude in check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlub Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 was rated higher than both of your CBs on several draft lists by some experts "Several" and "Some", are the key words there. Thats just like Barnett wasn't even a Top 5 rated LB last year, and Moss wasn't the highest rated WR in the 1998 draft, or Favre being the #1 QB in 1991. It means exactly nothing. As a player, I have no doubt that Poole is a steal. He will be a very good player, but I just don't like the character problems, Pete Carroll has described Poole to many NFL scouts as somebody that has an Ego and thinks he's better then his teammates. But as a player, you guys got a good one, no doubt. And Sals I also never questioned the pick of Carey, I think he is a good selection and will be a very good OL for years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sals Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Thats just like Barnett wasn't even a Top 5 rated LB last year, and Moss wasn't the highest rated WR in the 1998 draft, or Favre being the #1 QB in 1991. Moss was rated the highest WR in 1998 by almost every publication and expert as was Barnett a top 5 LB, get the facts right. It means exactly nothing. It would to you if it were the other way around. As a player, I have no doubt that Poole is a steal. He will be a very good player, but I just don't like the character problems, Pete Carroll has described Poole to many NFL scouts as somebody that has an Ego and thinks he's better then his teammates. Where have you seen Carroll "describe" Poole to many NFL scouts as someone with and ego and better than his teammates? I have only seen that Carroll has given him glowing reports and said his maturity as a senior was remarkable and a great team asset. Please provide proof and LINKS for your bold and fabricated comments! And Sals I also never questioned the pick of Carey, I think he is a good selection and will be a very good OL for years to come. I thought he wasn't worth "sacraficing" our draft for? By giving up all of our 1 4th round pick! Back tracker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBurque Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 (in boxing announcer voice) "And Sals is RIPPING away at Phlub against the ropes, this is getting uglY!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nc marlin Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Its pretty bad when not a single one in a bunch of Dolphins homers gives the draft an A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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