major kick ass movie

indubitably....except for a cheesy soundtrack and some cheesy scenes, the movie was badass. Awesome battle and fight scenes. I think I might have a man-crush on Brad Pitt.

And it appears to be a bomb, It's doing well at The Box Office but for The Expectations and The Amount it cost to make the movie, it's going way under expectations.

 

Van Helsing(Horrible Movie btw) will be the #1 May Movie, it appears. Not Troy as some expected.

Give it some time, some movies gain steam as they go on because of word of mouth.

Give it some time, some movies gain steam as they go on because of word of mouth.

Word of mouth movies, don't generally spend record amounts of money promoting it.

 

It has tough competition with Shrek 2 looming ever closer.

I dont think they promoted it as well as some blockbusters.

 

LOTR did it the right way by releasing a trailer waaaaaaaaaaaay before it came out.

 

I guess Troy did that somewhat as well....didnt they have a Superbowl commerical?

 

Shrek 2 is gonna be awesome.

meh, I'm not one to care about how much money that spent, how much the movie makes...I enjoyed the movie. Thought the fighting was badass.

I dont think they promoted it as well as some blockbusters.

 

LOTR did it the right way by releasing a trailer waaaaaaaaaaaay before it came out.

 

I guess Troy did that somewhat as well....didnt they have a Superbowl commerical?

 

Shrek 2 is gonna be awesome.

Troy Spent 50 million on Marketing in The US, that's more than most movies cost to make.

indubitably....except for a cheesy soundtrack and some cheesy scenes, the movie was badass. Awesome battle and fight scenes. I think I might have a man-crush on Brad Pitt.

same here, he played that part really well. and the chicks in that movie were mega hot.

*boooiinnngg* (for Helen)

Here's Helen...

The movie itself was very good. I have one beef about the battle scenes and another beef about a major part of the story they left out, but all in all it was a very good movie. It didn't live up to expectations fully, but the expectations I had for it were so high that it would have been impossible.

 

The question I always ask myself to whether this was a good movie or not was whether or not I could see it again. This one gets a resounding yes.

Brad Pitt's 'Troy' Tops at Box Office

Sunday May 16 12:17 PM ET

 

"Troy," an ancient epic starring Brad Pitt, sold an estimated $45.6 million worth of tickets in its first weekend to replace the monster thriller "Van Helsing" atop the North American box office, its distributor said on Sunday.

 

Although "Troy" fell short of the $50 million benchmark viewed informally in Hollywood as the pass grade for a summer popcorn movie, Warner Bros. noted that "Troy" was R-rated and two hours, 40 minutes long, limiting its audience on two counts.

 

Indeed, director Wolfgang Petersen's $200 million adaptation of Homer's "The Iliad," ranks as the No. 2 R-rated nonsequel of all time, behind rapper Eminem's "8 Mile," which opened to $51 million in November 2002.

 

"We're very pleased with the opening," said Dan Fellman, president of distribution at Warner Bros., a unit of Time Warner Inc . He said his benchmark was the similarly themed epic "Gladiator," which opened with $34.8 million in May 2000.

 

Universal Pictures' "Van Helsing" slipped to No. 2 with $20.1 million, a hefty 61 percent slide from its $51.8 million opening last weekend. Its 10-day total stands at $84.5 million, far short of the $100 million that the studio had hoped to reach by this time. The critically maligned film stars Hugh Jackman as a vampire slayer. Universal is a unit of NBC Universal, which is 80 percent owned by General Electric Co.

some people were pissed that the gods weren't more involved in the movie...i'm glad it wasn't...it would have made it more hokie. Some people also thought it wasn't too realistic...newsflash! Movies aren't that realistic in general...especially when it's based on a war that is a part of MYTHOLOGY!

Well, I mean I like the no god angle it took, however

 

The story of Troy is 75% god related. The cause of the whole war is an argument between Aphrodite, Hera, and Athena. The gods took sides and that is why the war lasted so long.

 

One of my two gripes was that they didn't say anything at all about why the war started, when if it was based on the Illiad that should have at least been mentioned.

 

My other gripe, in case you are wondering, is the way the Greeks fought, but I'm sure there will be plenty of people that will be like "OMG nitpicker". Well I'm big on Ancient Greeks, so I would have liked for them to get the Phalanx in there somehow. The most destructive and powerful fighting strategy ever and you don't include it in one of it's bigger moments? Come on give me the Spartans in the Phalanx!

i agree with furman 100%

Well, I mean I like the no god angle it took, however

 

The story of Troy is 75% god related. The cause of the whole war is an argument between Aphrodite, Hera, and Athena. The gods took sides and that is why the war lasted so long.

 

One of my two gripes was that they didn't say anything at all about why the war started, when if it was based on the Illiad that should have at least been mentioned.

 

My other gripe, in case you are wondering, is the way the Greeks fought, but I'm sure there will be plenty of people that will be like "OMG nitpicker". Well I'm big on Ancient Greeks, so I would have liked for them to get the Phalanx in there somehow. The most destructive and powerful fighting strategy ever and you don't include it in one of it's bigger moments? Come on give me the Spartans in the Phalanx!

not so sure about the Phalanx (i dont know anything about it), but as for the gods being involved in the story of Troy...no. The gods were used in the Iliad. The MOVIE Troy was based on the Iliad obviously, but it definitely was not the Iliad.

 

The gods being involved would have made it seem hokey. Like Clash of the Titans or somethin gay. This was more Sparticus style. Hotness.

I don't know, if you are going to base a movie on a story, shouldn't you follow that story's main components instead of throwing away a good chunk of them?

not necessarily. Part of the writers' creativity comes in molding the story into how they see fit. In my Theatre class from Winter term (what a terrible class...worked my ass off for a B-), I think we learned it was called the Director's intiative or somethin like that.

Well I guess whatever works to bring in the most money is what they are going to do. I personally thought it was a very good movie, but if they would have fixed those two things it would have jumped up to Great status.

Haven't seen the movie yet, not sure if I will. I think this for me might be one of those where I rent it. I'm actually looking forward to Shrek 2 and a bunch of the Day After Tomorrow looks real good.

Well I guess whatever works to bring in the most money is what they are going to do. I personally thought it was a very good movie, but if they would have fixed those two things it would have jumped up to Great status.

explain Phalanx?

The Phalanx was the Spartan way of infantry fighting. It basically comes down to this:

 

The Spartans would line up 5 men side by side, as if they were columns next to each other. Single file lines would form behind these men, with the average phalanx going 8 men deep for a total of 40 soldiers in this unit closely resembling a grid. They would march up with their spears, everything held the same way. They were basically like Imperial Storm Troopers, if one happened to fall the others wouldn't blink and they would keep fighting. They wouldn't break formation for anyone, and as long as they held steady they were unstoppable. The average phalanx was 5x8, though there are tales of huge phalanxs that encompassed entire batallions.

 

Here is a visual so you can take a look at a bigger phalanx:

 

 

Imagine that coming straight at you.

You can't tell me that wouldn't have been beyond awesome.

that definitely would be cool to see in the movie