November 8, 200421 yr The Marlins have sewed up two of their vacant coaching positions, agreeing to terms with pitching coach Mark Wiley and bullpen coach Harry Dunlop, and are working toward bringing Admin Bowa aboard as bench coach. Bowa, who was fired as manager of the Philadelphia Phillies at the end of the season, said last week he was leaning toward accepting the job with the Marlins. The Marlins are expected to announce all their new coaching hires early this week. Wiley was the pitching coach for Cleveland and Baltimore under manager Mike Hargrove but was let go by Baltimore in the middle of the 2004 season. He inherits a staff that includes Josh Beckett, A.J. Burnett and Dontrelle Willis, with the possibility that free agent Carl Pavano could also return if he doesn't accept an offer elsewhere. Dunlop, 71, is a long-time associate of Marlins manager Jack McKeon. Dunlop served as a coach for Kansas City when McKeon managed the team in the mid-1970s and also worked with McKeon in San Diego and Cincinnati. An announcement concerning Bowa could come early this week when the league's general managers hold their annual meetings in South Florida. The meetings open tonight at the Ritz-Carlton in Key Biscayne. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/10125962.htm I'd rather have Rosey :thumbdown .
November 8, 200421 yr Wiley did a solid job when he was there...right? Eh, it's not a hire that makes you excited, but whatever, we needed someone new...Rosey had lost control of the staff, he couldn't have come back.
November 8, 200421 yr Author no clue on these two. Where has Wiley coached? What is in his resume? 610711[/snapback] Read the article.
November 8, 200421 yr Mark Wiley is supposed to have a great reputation as pitching coach. He served under Mike Hargrove while he led the Indians to five consecutive AL Central Division titles from 1995-99, and World Series appearances in 1995 and 1997. Harry Dunlop was a coach with the Kansas City Royals from 1973-75, when McKeon managed the Royals. Dunlop also worked with McKeon from 1983-90, when McKeon was vice president of baseball operations for the San Diego Padres. The guy was a Reds coach under manager John McNamara from 1979-82. Dunlop has coached and managed in the minor and major leagues since 1969. He spent four seasons as as special assignment scout for the Milwaukee Brewers.
November 8, 200421 yr Great move :thumbup McKeon is getting all his guys in so he can manage the team better.
November 8, 200421 yr yes, saw that in the herald. Sounds good. Hopefully itll turn out good. April 5 doesnt come soon enough.
November 8, 200421 yr I started a thread on orioleshangout.com this morning and got a half dozen responses regarding Mark Wiley. Virtually all were positive except one from a newbie. You can check it out here Orioleshangout.com on Mark Wiley
November 9, 200421 yr I havent heard of them but they should be good and they have MLB Coaching experience. Now lets hire Bowa!
November 9, 200421 yr WILEY SUCKS MAJORLY!!!! HE TURNED EVERY PITCHER IN BALTIMORE INTO SHEET!!! The o's were over .500 after Wiley was fired.
November 9, 200421 yr From orioleshangout.com forums: He seemed to do a good enough job. But the opinions of some O's pitchers after he was "reassigned" was that he was too focused on mechanics. he's gonna have a fit with the d-train. Wiley doesn't seem to work well with young pitchers, which could be a problem for a team with a young rotation like the Marlins. Wiley failed to get anything out of Ainsworth, DuBose, and Riley last year, though injuries contributed to their failures, too. Then again, Beckett, Willis, etc. are more advanced than those young O's pitchers, so maybe Wiley won't be as much of a problem in Florida they can have mean old Wiley! He went through quite a stretch in 2003 where it really seemed like every time he went to the mound to talk to the pitcher, the guy at the plate would hit a homerun. I guess in 2004 he taught the pitchers to avoid that by just walking everyone. That's right! The Mark Wiley Effect! I forgot about that. Not only would the next batter hit a homerun, it was usually on the very first PITCH after Wiley's visit. It was downright eerie how often that happened. I'm thinking you probably don't want to hear what most people on this board think of Mark Wiley. He had a few successes, but often they seemed to only last a year or so and then regress again, ala Sidney Ponson and Jorge Julio this year. We should be afraid very afraid next year by the stuff they are saying.
November 9, 200421 yr while i'm on the subject of orioleshangout.com i don't like how they have a pinned message insisting that people over 500 posts must sign up for their "plus member service" to "pay the bills." this just proves how this site PWNS all. glad Admin isn't like that with us. As a reminder, the rule around here is you must be a plus member after racking up 500 or more posts on the message board. We figure if you're going to make us a consistent stop here on the net, the least you can do is help us pay the bills here. In a few days I'll be going through the list and double checking everything. Just giving everyone time to re-up now, or sign up now for the first time too. After all, you'll also get access to the full top 25 prospect list, as well as a list of players to watch over the next season or two. We'll also go with a best tools list again among the various prospects in the system. All for about two bucks a month. plus there is a loop hole around this, you could just go back and delete your very old posts to reduce the number.
November 10, 200421 yr while i'm on the subject of orioleshangout.com i don't like how they have a pinned message insisting that people over 500 posts must sign up for their "plus member service" to "pay the bills." this just proves how this site PWNS all. glad Admin isn't like that with us. As a reminder, the rule around here is you must be a plus member after racking up 500 or more posts on the message board. We figure if you're going to make us a consistent stop here on the net, the least you can do is help us pay the bills here. In a few days I'll be going through the list and double checking everything. Just giving everyone time to re-up now, or sign up now for the first time too. After all, you'll also get access to the full top 25 prospect list, as well as a list of players to watch over the next season or two. We'll also go with a best tools list again among the various prospects in the system. All for about two bucks a month. plus there is a loop hole around this, you could just go back and delete your very old posts to reduce the number. 611688[/snapback] well I think Admin should man up and do that.... $3-5 from every member would go along way... I guess you're lucky he runs the site..
November 10, 200421 yr Wiley got a bad rap. The man he replaced, Ray Miller, is one of the better pitching coaches in the league and a fan favorite. Wiley never had a chance to develop the Ainsworths, Rileys, Bauers as there seems to be some sort of injury bug spreading to every Orioles pitching prospect from the rookie league up to the majors for the last five years. And there just now hiring a new minor league director!!! Ponson, Daal, Hentgen and other complimentary starters were average at best when they were signed, but spun as star pitchers by a front office gunshy after the Albert Belle and David Segui debacles. Perhaps its not fair to suggest Wiley will be good because the worst run operation in MLB fired him, but he did get some decent work out of an older Charles Nagy and Dave Burba and developed Bartolo Colon.
November 10, 200421 yr well, one thing is for sure, is that jack's got his back, so beckett and co. will have to take him seriously.
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