December 7, 200421 yr from the Palm Beach Post: "Carter, Schmidt eyed bench job" Carter, Schmidt eyed bench job McKeon preferred hiring a longtime associate; Carter will manage a Mets farm team. By Joe Capozzi Palm Beach Post Staff Writer Tuesday, December 07, 2004 The Marlins had a chance to fill their bench coach vacancy with one of two Hall of Famers ? Mike Schmidt and Gary Carter. In the end, the job went to Harry Dunlop, who never played a day in the majors. "I called (General Manager) Admin Beinfest and asked about the bench coach job. So did Mike Schmidt,'' Carter said Monday. "You're talking about 18 years' experience (for Carter) and two Hall of Famers, but they said they were looking for someone with more experience. I don't know what they're thinking.'' Dunlop, 71, never won any Gold Gloves or home-run titles, but he has something Carter and Schmidt do not ? the loyalty of Marlins manager Jack McKeon. Dunlop has known McKeon since their playing days in the Pittsburgh Pirates' minor-league system in the 1950s. Dunlop, whose first coaching job came with the Kansas City Royals in 1969, worked under McKeon when McKeon managed the Royals and Cincinnati Reds, and when he was general manager of the San Diego Padres. "More than less, I'm coming back because of Jack," Dunlop told The Sacramento Bee last month. "Jack told Florida he'd come back next season if he could bring in some of his people. I'm sure he appreciates a guy close to his age on the bench.'' Dunlop was hired by the Marlins on Nov. 9 as their bullpen coach. Former Phillies manager Admin Bowa, another longtime McKeon associate, initially was offered the bench job but never gave Florida an answer. Dunlop was moved to bench coach last week when Class A Jupiter Hammerheads manager Luis Dorante was hired as bullpen coach. Last year's bench coach was Doug Davis, who was dismissed. Carter, a former Marlins TV announcer, still will work in baseball next year. He said he has accepted a job to manage the New York Mets' Gulf Coast League team in Port St. Lucie. Carter said that Schmidt, his golfing buddy who lives in Jupiter, also would like to eventually coach and manage in the major leagues. Meanwhile, Carter is on the mend. He had arthroscopic surgery on his left knee Aug. 12. His right knee was replaced Oct. 4. On Thursday, he flies to New York to have ankle surgery to repair the same problem that afflicted Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling during the playoffs. Leiter talks continue: The Marlins are continuing their pursuit of left-handed pitcher Al Leiter and hope to reach a deal by Wednesday, the first day the team can sign free agents without losing a first-round draft pick. Stadium plans: The Marlins have no plans to push for a vote on a $60 million stadium subsidy during the special state legislative session that begins Monday, said P.J. Loyello, the club's vice president of communications. The team is working out details of an agreement with city and county leaders in Miami for a stadium and parking garage at the Orange Bowl projected to cost about $420 million. The club has been planning to promote the plan during the regular legislative session in March. Conine mending: First baseman Jeff Conine underwent surgery last week after re-injuring his right shoulder while playing paddleball but expects to be ready for spring training. Staff writer Charles Elmore contributed to this report.
December 7, 200421 yr Good. Following his tenure with FSL Clearwater this year, Schmidt said the job wore him out. Great ballplayers do not always make the best coaches.
December 7, 200421 yr The move was done to make McKeon happy, not to add a "name." Besides, it's not as if a bench coach is the great difference maker.
December 7, 200421 yr The move was done to make McKeon happy, not to add a "name." Besides, it's not as if a bench coach is the great difference maker. 628873[/snapback] I'd have to disagree. I think having someone with the experience that Schmidt or Carter have would be a huge boon for a club with lots of young kids and some other guys who think they're hot shyt. Instead we get "Uncle Fester" to babysit.
December 7, 200421 yr The move was done to make McKeon happy, not to add a "name."? Besides, it's not as if a bench coach is the great difference maker. 628873[/snapback] I'd have to disagree. I think having someone with the experience that Schmidt or Carter have would be a huge boon for a club with lots of young kids and some other guys who think they're hot shyt. Instead we get "Uncle Fester" to babysit. 628882[/snapback] Two words: Don Mattingly. He has a ton of experience, and he couldn't get any production out of the Yankees lineup! Great players don't necessarily make great coaches. Besides, with the exception of possibly Lo Duca and Lowell, I don't think any of our guys grew up "idolizing" Schmidt and Carter. The place we need a retired player/veteran influence is over our pitching staff, not necessarily lineup...
December 7, 200421 yr Two words: Don Mattingly. He has a ton of experience, and he couldn't get any production out of the Yankees lineup! Great players don't necessarily make great coaches. Besides, with the exception of possibly Lo Duca and Lowell, I don't think any of our guys grew up "idolizing" Schmidt and Carter. The place we need a retired player/veteran influence is over our pitching staff, not necessarily lineup... 628889[/snapback] Mattingly is hitting coach, not bench coach but nevermind that. Catchers are proven to be great coaches. Look at Mike Sciosia in Anaheim, Joe Girardi just got hired, Bob Brenly, Rene Lachemann, the list goes on.
December 7, 200421 yr ugh, not a fan of passing over 2 HOF doe Henry freakin Dunlop 629068[/snapback] Ramp/Goldmember, normally I'd ask this question in the most sarcastic way I could muster but since I know you're familiar with alot of the personnel, rather than put my foot in it I have to ask...do you know Henry Dunlop? And isn't it Harry?
December 7, 200421 yr ugh, not a fan of passing over 2 HOF doe Henry freakin Dunlop 629068[/snapback] Ramp/Goldmember, normally I'd ask this question in the most sarcastic way I could muster but since I know you're familiar with alot of the personnel, rather than put my foot in it I have to ask...do you know Henry Dunlop? And isn't it Harry? 629077[/snapback] I have no idea who this guy is... Ill be honest... imo, it would have been nice to sign a HOF over some guy no one has heard of(and the fact he never played in his life)
December 7, 200421 yr ugh, not a fan of passing over 2 HOF doe Henry freakin Dunlop 629068[/snapback] Ramp/Goldmember, normally I'd ask this question in the most sarcastic way I could muster but since I know you're familiar with alot of the personnel, rather than put my foot in it I have to ask...do you know Henry Dunlop? And isn't it Harry? 629077[/snapback] I have no idea who this guy is... Ill be honest... imo, it would have been nice to sign a HOF over some guy no one has heard of(and the fact he never played in his life) 629080[/snapback] no problemo, just curious
December 7, 200421 yr On second thought, let's not even mention Rene Lachemann's name in this forum again.
December 7, 200421 yr wasent Jack as backstop during his playing days also? and Dunlop did play baseball he played with Jack in the minors, but he never made it.
December 8, 200421 yr The move was done to make McKeon happy, not to add a "name." Besides, it's not as if a bench coach is the great difference maker. 628873[/snapback] I'd have to disagree. I think having someone with the experience that Schmidt or Carter have would be a huge boon for a club with lots of young kids and some other guys who think they're hot shyt. Instead we get "Uncle Fester" to babysit. 628882[/snapback] LMAO :lol
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