Guest FlummoxedLummox Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Jimmy Rollins just signed a contract extension with the Phillies for 40 million dollars over 5 years. What do you think it will take to keep Agon? And do you think we will or should resign him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAndMrsFish Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 That contract that Rollins just inked...is going to hurt the Marlins in more ways that one...cause now he will stay with the Phillies for the long run and that is going to put AGon out of the Marlins price range...cause if Rollins can get 8 mill...how much would you be willing to pay Gonzalez for his 50x better defense.....???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Wilson or Andino will be our SS just my guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickSilver Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Should we yes. Will we? Well he is having a good offensive season for himself and he is still relatively young. He knows he is just shy of being a gold glove guy if not already one and others teams know it. He led the NL in HRs last year for a SS. The question is will he begin talking about his contract in the midst of one of his better offensive seasons instead of seeing how much he can cash in at the end. At the end of this year we are going to have to re-sign AJ or replace two starters (Cause Al is gone after this year.) D-Train and Carlos will cost us more next year. We will have a hole in the OF in Encarnacion unless we resign him for more. Conine, Harris and Damion are all towards the end of their careers and whenever they decide to call it quits we will have 3 openings to fill on the bench/backup. I think Seabass will hold off talks until the end of the year to see how much he can push his price up and you can't fault him for that. 4-5 mill a year for 4 years would be suitable though now after this signing by Rollins we might be looking at 5-6 maybe even 7 mill a year. The question is will we put that money in a guy who has not shown he can handle the bat all that great. Its not hard for me to think there are teams who could offer Seabass a 4/28 deal and I don't forsee a hometeam discount usually there isn't one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moneyball Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Gonzo needs to pull a Luis Castillo and accept less money to stay in South Florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsContinueTo ShowDomi Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 At least we have Andino, who seems to be a possible replacement. Seabass' defense would be missed, but they probably wouldn't want to spend too much to keep him here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAndMrsFish Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 I agree on Andrino....he is a good local product...but we can only see what will happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Burnett is priority number 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamarlins3 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Gonzo needs to pull a Luis Castillo and accept less money to stay in South Florida. 807836[/snapback] Even if he did, I don't know the Marlins could afford him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinFan10 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 The Marlins can't afford A-Gon if they sign Burnett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accord Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 5 years, $40 million for JIMMY ROLLINS? The Phillies are insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 5 years, $40 million for JIMMY ROLLINS? The Phillies are insane. 807902[/snapback] why is that insane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickSilver Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 5 years, $40 million for JIMMY ROLLINS?? The Phillies are insane. 807902[/snapback] why is that insane? 807918[/snapback] I agree. Why is it insane? Is it a bit much? Yes. But Rollins has had the best SS fielding percentage since 2001 according to ESPN. So he is a top defensive guy and he can swing a decent bat. And he is still young enough to first be entering his prime. So a bit much? Yes. Insane? No just a little big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Marlin Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Its insane because he is an above average shortstop, not a great shortstop I only hope this move doesnt have the Kris Benson effect and blowup the market. If we were to spend $20 million/4 years on AGon, there is no way to resign Burnett, I think Andino will be our shortstop next year, and with Hermida likely to be in left field, Leiter gone, we would have a pretty decent chance of keeping out of pinstripes with the money we save. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Marlin Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Sorry swap left for right field in above post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 It's pretty funny to compare and contrast this year's squad with what could very likely become next year. Not sick and demented funny, although I'm sure many sky-is-falling fans are/will, just ironic funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moneyball Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Rotoworld: Phillies signed shortstop Jimmy Rollins to a five-year, $40 million contract with an option for 2011. This has the potential to work out worse than the Pat Burrell deal. Rollins, who was eligible for free agency after 2006, gets a $5 million signing bonus. The option for 2011 is worth $8.5 million and includes a $2 million buyout. Rollins is well above average defensively, and since he's still just 26, he'll probably have some good offensive years in his prime. However, with the exception of the second half of 2004, he's spent the last the last 3 1/2 years as a 700 OPS guy. If the Phillies hadn't paid him, someone else probably would have. Still, he has some work to do to be worth $8 million per year. Jun. 13 - 1:58 pm et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FlummoxedLummox Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 It's pretty funny to compare and contrast this year's squad with what could very likely become next year. Not sick and demented funny, although I'm sure many sky-is-falling fans are/will, just ironic funny. 807932[/snapback] I'm pretty interested to see what's gonna happen next year. One thing will be certain, there will be a lot of new blood, and that can be pretty exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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