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For All Those Who Complain About The MLB 'System'


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I know that alot of people think that the ammount of money the Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, Angels, and Phillies of this world spend make them absolute favorites but as this year is an indication...the system is pretty even and fair.

 

At the all-star break only 8 teams (3 AL, 5 NL) are out of the wild card race.

 

22 teams could possibly take homer the wild card and make the playoffs where the last 2 WS champions have come from.

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/standings/wildcard.jsp

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One year is not a good sample size. The glutony of some teams is detrimental to the game

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How so?

 

The Yankees, Mets, and Phillies spending has brought them nothing so far this year.

 

I wouldnt call it gluttony as much as owners who will actually spend and do what it takes money-wise to win.

 

I think the owners that starve their team are as much to blame as any for what is wrong with baseball...

 

Detroit, a team that has been a laughing stock for a while now, had its owner say he will spend until he wins...I wish more owners would do this instead of robbing their fans.

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I know that alot of people think that the ammount of money the Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, Angels, and Phillies of this world spend make them absolute favorites but as this year is an indication...the system is pretty even and fair.

 

At the all-star break only 8 teams (3 AL, 5 NL) are out of the wild card race.

 

22 teams could possibly take homer the wild card and make the playoffs where the last 2 WS champions have come from.

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/standings/wildcard.jsp

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2002 Angels

2003 :D

2004 Sox

 

last 3 :thumbup

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No matter how much teams like the Yankees , Red Sox and Cubs spent (within reason) they will always be profitable. The same can't be said about other teams.

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Exactly the point. Passion is right in that a lot of teams are in the race, and in 2002 and 2003 there were BIG upset champions, but at the same time, there are a few teams that will ALWAYS spend more because they have more, and as a result, ALWAYS been at least in the race (those horrid Yanks are only 2.5 out of first) and that is simply not fair to everybody else.

 

It's still not really an even playing field overall yet, a field where teams like the Devil Rays and Pirates can even win any given year. which is what people like myself want to see.

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No matter how much teams like the Yankees , Red Sox and Cubs spent (within reason) they will always be profitable. The same can't be said about other teams.

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Exactly the point. Passion is right in that a lot of teams are in the race, and in 2002 and 2003 there were BIG upset champions, but at the same time, there are a few teams that will ALWAYS spend more because they have more, and as a result, ALWAYS been at least in the race (those horrid Yanks are only 2.5 out of first) and that is simply not fair to everybody else.

 

It's still not really an even playing field overall yet, a field where teams like the Devil Rays and Pirates can even win any given year. which is what people like myself want to see.

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The Devil Rays have a chance to win, their owner just doesn't spend near any of the money he makes. Wasn't there some study done saying the Rays were one of the most profitable teams in the league?

 

Just throwing it out there.

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No matter how much teams like the Yankees , Red Sox and Cubs spent (within reason) they will always be profitable. The same can't be said about other teams.

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Exactly the point. Passion is right in that a lot of teams are in the race, and in 2002 and 2003 there were BIG upset champions, but at the same time, there are a few teams that will ALWAYS spend more because they have more, and as a result, ALWAYS been at least in the race (those horrid Yanks are only 2.5 out of first) and that is simply not fair to everybody else.

 

It's still not really an even playing field overall yet, a field where teams like the Devil Rays and Pirates can even win any given year. which is what people like myself want to see.

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The Devil Rays have a chance to win, their owner just doesn't spend near any of the money he makes. Wasn't there some study done saying the Rays were one of the most profitable teams in the league?

 

Just throwing it out there.

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Well small market teams are partly at fault for their struggles, as the bad ones have bad owners. But at the same time, it takes an extraordinary effort (like what the Twins do) for a small market team to win, while teams like the Red Sox, Yanks, and Cubs can just spend a truckload of money to bring in the best players without blinking and consider any player they develop themself as just a bonus.

 

The small market teams can win, but it's far from an even playing field, which is the problem I have with the system, even if a ton of teams happen to still be in the race.

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I know that alot of people think that the ammount of money the Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, Angels, and Phillies of this world spend make them absolute favorites but as this year is an indication...the system is pretty even and fair.

 

At the all-star break only 8 teams (3 AL, 5 NL) are out of the wild card race.

 

22 teams could possibly take homer the wild card and make the playoffs where the last 2 WS champions have come from.

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/standings/wildcard.jsp

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Great point

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like I said, spending too little is as bad as over-spending. So I don't like the Rays example one bit.

 

with that said, for small market teams to have a shot, they must be extremerly lucky and/or have been rebuilding their teams with young talent for a number of years. Rebuilding is a crap shot, since it is so hard to predict how good prospect X will be

 

I don't like market caps, I think a larger luxury cap should be put in place, in addition to a minimum cap.

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I don't know why people love parity. I mean, the NFL has like 25 8-8 teams (exageration) every year, and it makes it ridiculously tough to create a dynasty. It makes what the Patriots have been doing extremely impressive. Personally, I love when leagues have dynasties.

 

Every fan loves to either a) cheer on a winner, or b) hate a winner. In NFL, it's hard to find teams to hate. I mean, it USED to be where an NFL fan could hate the Cowboys. Then this parity crap starting coming up, and now a team can go 13-3 one year, and 4-12 the next season. That's no fun.

 

What I love about the MLB "system" is that I can sit back and know that I can hate the Yankees every year. It's tough to hate a perennial .500 team that spends about the same as every other team. It's a lot easier to hate a team that spends 8 billion dollars (another exageration).

 

It's also easier to root for underdogs when....there are actually underdogs. Teams like Nationals come from nowhere. The Marlins of 03. Teams that use chemistry, small ball, etc. defeat "evil empires".

 

I love the fact that I can sit back and continually hate the same teams year in and year out, instead of having to hate the Packers one year, the Ravens the next, the Patriots the next, etc.

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No matter how much teams like the Yankees , Red Sox and Cubs spent (within reason) they will always be profitable. The same can't be said about other teams.

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Exactly the point. Passion is right in that a lot of teams are in the race, and in 2002 and 2003 there were BIG upset champions, but at the same time, there are a few teams that will ALWAYS spend more because they have more, and as a result, ALWAYS been at least in the race (those horrid Yanks are only 2.5 out of first) and that is simply not fair to everybody else.

 

It's still not really an even playing field overall yet, a field where teams like the Devil Rays and Pirates can even win any given year. which is what people like myself want to see.

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What have the Devil Rays and Pirates done to deserve to win? Their ownership has made no effort to try and piece together a team that could realistically win. They dont deserve anything until they start trying to keep their own talent instead of trading it away to the big boys and then crying how they can't compete...

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