August 23, 200521 yr Chris Carpenter: 17-4, 2.29 ERA, 6 CG, 4 SHO, 174 K, .215 BAA Dontrelle Willis: 17-8, 2.67 ERA, 6 CG, 5 SHO 124 K, .244 BAA Roger Clemens: 11-5, 1.53 ERA, 0 CG, 0 SHO, 155 K, .187 BAA ...If only D-Train didn't have those couple of bad starts in a row after the allstar break.
August 23, 200521 yr I truely believe the D-Train can still pull it off. We are playing great baseball, and he's been great for the last few starts he has made, if only Carpenter can have some rocky starts, it would put D-Train in a great spot. How many more starts do you guys think the D-Train has to do this, let's compare stats all-around.
August 23, 200521 yr they said on the broadcast today that he should have about 7 more starts. carpenter might get a bit more rest because st. louis has such a big cushion. definitely enough time for him to overtake carpenter in ERA. as for vs. clemens, it'll be most wins vs. lowest ERA; clemens would probably get the nod b/c an 1.53 ERA is just sick and, besides, he's roger clemens. on that point, anybody know if, historically, the wins leader or the ERA leader is more likely to win a cy young?
August 23, 200521 yr Dontrelle then should get to 20 wins with 7 starts to go. If he can lower the era a little to around 2.5 he should be in good position
August 23, 200521 yr If we go to the playoffs, his chances go up big time. The way this team is playing should gather him some positive attention.
August 23, 200521 yr Author Dontrelle then should get to 20 wins with 7 starts to go. If he can lower the era a little to around 2.5 he should be in good position 912010[/snapback] If he does get to 20, it'll be a new Marlins franchise record since no Marlins player has ever had a 20 win season before.
August 23, 200521 yr If Dontrelle makes it to 20 wins, Carpenter has a few rocky starts to raise is ERA and keep his win total below 18, and Clemens KEEPS his ERA near 1.53.... Clemens beats out the D-Train :banghead I think Dontrelle would be deserving, but all the TV and radio guys seem to love the rocket. Nevertheless, I think Carpenter will win it in the end. I don't see him blowing up down the stretch...he's been lights out this year.
August 23, 200521 yr Author Clemens should not win for the very same reason the Big Unit didn't win it last year.
August 23, 200521 yr I think the fact that Dontrelle allows more hits than the other guys and had the very rocky stretch dims his chances.
August 23, 200521 yr on that point, anybody know if, historically, the wins leader or the ERA leader is more likely to win a cy young? 912008[/snapback] I believe wins with solid era beats out amazing era with mediocre wins. See Kevin Brown, 1996. If Carpenter wins, its fine. But if Clemens beats out Dtrain, then the Marlins will have gotten screwed from both sides.
August 23, 200521 yr I think Carpenter's put a bit of distance between D-train and Clemens. I just don't see a pitcher with less than 15 wins getting the Cy Young...not if he's a starter. Clemens certainly has his work cut out for him, and considering his most recent start was his worst of the season, I don't think he's going to get there. Also Clemens has only pitched more than 7 innings a whole 3 times all year, compared to 6 CGs for Carpenter and Willis. He just can't finish a game anymore. Dontrelle will need help. But if he wins 20 games and has a lower ERA than Carpenter, I think it's his prize.
August 23, 200521 yr 20 is the magic number, as I doubt they'll give Cy Young to Clemens over a 20 game winner
August 23, 200521 yr There are still media writers that consider Dontrelle a carnival act, not a legitimate pitcher. Hopefully by the end of this year, their opinion of him will have changed. But I think that perception of him will be there when it comes time to place their votes. Clemens will win it despite all three deserving of the award.
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