Honestly, who didn't see this coming when the City of Miami started screwing around with ownership on the stadium deal? I feel in my heart-of-hearts (and I may be quite naive here) that it wasn't really the 30 million gap left by the state that killed the stadium deal. I don't think that Loria and Samson are trying to gut this franchise and try to pinch every penny they can -- I think that if it were just the 30 million, Loria and Samson would have found a way.

 

I blame the City of Miami, and idiots like Arriola and Manny Diaz. They were the ones who acted in bad faith, treating the Marlins stadium project like another candy jar that would enrich them and their associates. I also blame the fans for not coming to watch a team built to contend.

i said it when it was reported.

 

if its just a 30 million gap, have all sides sit down and hammer something out.

 

someone wasnt willing to compromise. who's story do you believe?

When the difference for a crucial part of the plan costs as much as a relief pitcher's salary for 4 seasons, there is no excuse for not getting it done.

 

No excuse for Samson

No excuse for Loria

No excuse for the goverment

Yep, blame all around. Sadly it is us, the fans, the fans who support the team, that are taking the fall.

i said it when it was reported.

 

if its just a 30 million gap, have all sides sit down and hammer something out.

 

someone wasnt willing to compromise. who's story do you believe?

 

 

 

Here's how we can tell it wasn't "just a 30 million dollar gap": the fire sale. If we had a whole bunch of money lying around when we had a payroll of $60-70 million - enough to fund most of the stadium ourselves but for $30 million bucks - why all of a sudden are we desperate to dump all of our salaries once the stadium is no longer in the picture? Shouldn't we just be using all that money that was supposed to be going to the stadium to fund the team? Shouldn't we have MORE money to play with now, not less?

 

The reality is, that was a doctored number given to us by the Marlins to earn the support of the fans and the people of Florida, and hopefull get some momentum going that would make the State look bad for turning us down for refusing to give us "only" $30 million bucks. I'm not blaming the team here - they acted in good faith, put the best possible product out there that they could, in the hope of getting people interested. But as for which side was more at fault here for us not getting a stadium, let's not be too quick to blame the state. The team's actions this past month are speaking louder than their words ever did.

Over two years time the state and city stalled, the price for labor, land and materials has grown.

 

This was a perfect offseason to make this necessary changes to give the franchise a few more years to decide its fate.

If they get payroll down to $25 million then they can cover the gap. Putting more upfront money down will enable them to get a bigger loan.