And Tressel has 4 weeks to gameplan for you.

 

Which is why we beat Miami when we were underdogs, pounded Kansas State when we were underdogs, and dominated Oklahoma State when we were underdogs.

 

And good luck stopping our offense. We haven't scored 234 points in the last 6 games by accident.

 

 

 

You beat Miami bc of a BS pass interference call where the far ref "replayed" the play in his head and then threw the flag. Simple as that.

Shouldn't have let Mo-Clo strip your boy after an INT.

 

 

DA U!!!!!!

 

At least we don't have Jeff Bowden.

Nice job winning the ACC Championship this year.

 

Oh wait.

 

I mean, I guess that would mean more to me if you didn't have 4 losses (soon to prob be 5) and weren't going to still finish behind us in the final rankings.

And yet, more people will remember the 2005 Noles then the 2005 Duh U.

 

I doubt many will remember either. Most will remember only Texas and USC, especially the winner. I'd still rather have a better record with a better ranking than win a conference.

You would stand with very few others in that argument.

 

Of course in general people wont remember certain teams unless they are their team or in their conference, but the 2005 ACC champions will always be FSU and they will always be able to add that to their list of conference championships. 2005 will mean something for FSU...nothing for Miami.

 

Ah, why the hell am I arguing about this, I dont like either school at all.

You would stand with very few others in that argument.

 

Of course in general people wont remember certain teams unless they are their team or in their conference, but the 2005 ACC champions will always be FSU and they will always be able to add that to their list of conference championships. 2005 will mean something for FSU...nothing for Miami.

 

Ah, why the hell am I arguing about this, I dont like either school at all.

 

 

 

Yeah I guess, but whatever. They might be the only team ever to be in a BCS game not ranked in the top 20 in america. By the end of the bowl season, they probably won't be ranked at all. ACC "championship" or not, I would not call that a "successful" season, nor something to hang your hat on.

 

I see what you are saying but I don't agree with it. Additionally, with schools this big, National Titles are what define them. Nobody remembers sh*tty years in which a team backed into a conference championship. I mean, regardless of your bowl games outcome, with NDs fanfare and the way Weiss improved the program, their year will be remembered by more probably. And that ammounts to nothing really.

 

w/e though, stupid conversation.

Wow.

 

This has it all. Fiesta Bowl smack present, future and past. It's like the GHOSTS OF CHRISTMAS in hur.

Since Bowls start next week, this is being bumped.