That is where I disagree with you. It is best to do the deal right (in part, that does mean as soon as possible) than to come to a conclusion for us, Marlins fans, to have some sort of closure.

That is where I disagree with you. It is best to do the deal right (in part, that does mean as soon as possible) than to come to a conclusion for us, Marlins fans, to have some sort of closure.

 

do the deal right? they have been at it for 2+ years. Incompetence or what?

 

Samson is not the right men for the job, but he continues to be the spoke man for the team.

Would you rather me compare them to the Mets, who play in a terrible stadium and have finished below the Marlins three years running?

Comparing ticket prices to NY is completely invalid. Everything is higher in NY, including salaries! Should we also be paying NY prices for housing and everything else? The markets are not comparable.

You're right. Should we compare Atlanta or Baltimore or Philadelphia? What of any other cities? Every market and team has its own effect. If I had the time, I'd attempt to adjust for all that, but I think the annual rankings of average ticket price suffice, where the average Marlin ticket was only more expensive than Colorado, Tampa and Kansas City in 2005 and only Montreal in years prior. Cities that have a lower cost of living than South Florida, especially northern Dade, Broward and Palm Beach that they draw to JRS/PPS/DS.

 

That is where I disagree with you. It is best to do the deal right (in part, that does mean as soon as possible) than to come to a conclusion for us, Marlins fans, to have some sort of closure.

do the deal right? they have been at it for 2+ years. Incompetence or what?

 

Samson is not the right men for the job, but he continues to be the spoke man for the team.

They've been at it for a decade if you look at it.

 

And I agree, but if you were Loria, who else would you trust with such a monumental project than your most loyal employee?

So they are losing money.

 

What surverys, reports, statistics do they have to prove that a new stadium would definitely bring them a profit?

 

I assume they could look at previous stadium changes around the league, but our team is very peculiar and unique.

The average price doesn't mean much. As was already pointed out the average is brought down by seats like the Fish Tank. You don?t have all those seats and angles in other ballparks. There is no comparison between the view I had at Camden Yards and what you get at JRS.

You make a good point, but I've already proven that the Marlins' infield seats outside of the founders seats is 33% and 25% less than that of Baltimore and Washington. And wouldn't the cheap upper deck seats in other ballparks bring their average price down, while the Marlins' limitation of upper deck sales bring theirs up?

 

So they are losing money.

 

What surverys, reports, statistics do they have to prove that a new stadium would definitely bring them a profit?

 

I assume they could look at previous stadium changes around the league, but our team is very peculiar and unique.

 

Oh, just a couple things: shares of luxury box seating, parking, concessions, corporate sales and increased stadium advertising. Not that any of that makes much of a different, really, they're only the key sources of revenue for most MLB teams outside of its broadcast rights contracts.

You make a good point, but I've already proven that the Marlins' infield seats outside of the founders seats is 33% and 25% less than that of Baltimore and Washington. And wouldn't the cheap upper deck seats in other ballparks bring their average price down, while the Marlins' limitation of upper deck sales bring theirs up?

 

 

So they are losing money.

 

What surverys, reports, statistics do they have to prove that a new stadium would definitely bring them a profit?

 

I assume they could look at previous stadium changes around the league, but our team is very peculiar and unique.

 

Oh, just a couple things: shares of luxury box seating, parking, concessions, corporate sales and increased stadium advertising. Not that any of that makes much of a different, really, they're only the key sources of revenue for most MLB teams outside of its broadcast rights contracts.

WTF? Relax bro.

Sorry.

I'm too innocent to be text-raped.

Cool down RFerry.......we know what side of the tracks you're on......David Samson's.

Meanwhile you're tying yourself down onto the tracks.

They're angling to get out of town. I know it and you do too.

Five pages and our first conspiracy theory? I'm disappointed. I would have thought you'd compare this to a fictional Hollywood movie a couple dozen posts back.

No conspiracy to it......just common sense, which you lack.

4th or 5th? The Marlins will have the first pick in the draft next year because the only thing that separates this team from the 2003 Tigers is Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis. This will be a horrible team.

 

Even the year the Marlins won the World Series no one even went to the games until mid-September.

 

I think they should have signed more players to minor league contracts that actually have major league talent......but they didn't.

 

R Ferry......you are naive to think the Marlins are gonna be a champ in a couple of years.

 

 

 

Dude why do you even post on this site? Do you like this team at all? I guess there is a place for fans of other teams at this site, but it seems like you have no other purpose but to antagonize every fan in here. And to top it off you combine your lack of social graces with an even bigger lack of baseball knowledge.

 

If you think the Marlins made bad trades that's fine. But this team does have significant young talent and while 2006 will have its share of rough moments it will also have many moments where these young players show why they are so highly regarded throughout baseball.

 

We have seen our team win two World Series. We have seen our team develop many outstanding players. And now we have seen our team make the decision to trade many of our favorite players for prospects which has been routinely mocked this offseason as a firesale. But it is incredibly naive on your part to not recognize the enormous collection of talent we now have at both the major and minor league levels. The Marlins are in as good a postion as anyone to win big in a couple of years as anyone. To completely deny this just makes you look foolish. Without a 100+ million budget how else should a team ever make a run? And spending big bucks is no guarantee. I'll take our chances to win big in a few years against anyone including any of the teams with the top 5 payrolls.

 

Continue to spew your ignorant venom if you like. As The Dude would say, "That's like your opinion man".

I'm as big a Marlins fan as you are buddy. I have a right to express my opinions on this site, and I'm willing to bet I've spent alot more money on the Marlins than you have. I've been a season ticket holder in the past when they deserved the price on the face on the ticket. They don't deserve it anymore.

 

We'll see what kind of prospects they got back in April through September......but that's all they are until they prove it on the field.