Not sure if anyone else saw the Busch Race that just ended, but it was one of the craziest races I have ever seen.

 

So to breakdown the story, Robby Gordon is in 2nd behind Australian driver Marcos Ambrose looking for his first career Busch win. Ambrose leads a lot of the race, but with 5 laps to go cars start piling up behind them, and before the caution comes out Gordon gets by Ambrose, but right after that Ambrose makes contact with Gordon and Gordon spins. Needless to say Gordon is pissed, starts bumping Ambrose during the caution. Meanwhile NASCAR's telling Gordon to go to the back because he spun before the caution came out. Gordon refuses and stays in that 2nd spot. As soon as the green comes back out, Gordon floors it on the first turn, just completely takes out Ambrose. Kevin Harvick ends up winning.

 

After the race Harvick's doing his burnout and you see Gordon come out of nowhere get right beside Harvick and starts doing his own burnout. :lol

 

I can't wait to see what NASCAR does about this, because Robby completely lost it and refused to pit after repeated black flags at the end of the race.

I'm so glad Gordon wrecked him. The caution flag was waving when Ambrose spun him out. He should have been the leader. He got screwed. What he did was completely justifiable.

 

And Carpentier was doing burnouts too.

I'm so glad Gordon wrecked him. The caution flag was waving when Ambrose spun him out. He should have been the leader. He got screwed. What he did was completely justifiable.

 

And Carpentier was doing burnouts too.

:lol

 

I'm not saying Gordon wasn't wronged, but come on, Ambrose didn't spin Robby on purpose, and then to repeatedly defy NASCAR and then purposely take out Ambrose even though he shouldn't have been anywhere near Ambrose, I don't see how he was pefectly justified in doing that. I felt bad for him, but he's gotta control his emotions.

 

I did see Carpentier's burnout too I just thought it was funny Robby got right next to where Harvick was doing his.

Sounds like the first Winston Cup win for Robby in New Hampshire in 01, if anybody else remembers that.

I'm so glad Gordon wrecked him. The caution flag was waving when Ambrose spun him out. He should have been the leader. He got screwed. What he did was completely justifiable.

 

And Carpentier was doing burnouts too.

:lol

 

I'm not saying Gordon wasn't wronged, but come on, Ambrose didn't spin Robby on purpose, and then to repeatedly defy NASCAR and then purposely take out Ambrose even though he shouldn't have been anywhere near Ambrose, I don't see how he was pefectly justified in doing that. I felt bad for him, but he's gotta control his emotions.

 

I did see Carpentier's burnout too I just thought it was funny Robby got right next to where Harvick was doing his.

bulls***. I would have done the same thing Gordon did. And its not like a driver has never not answered a black flag before. Look at Tony Stewart in the 2001 Pepsi 400.

I'm so glad Gordon wrecked him. The caution flag was waving when Ambrose spun him out. He should have been the leader. He got screwed. What he did was completely justifiable.

 

And Carpentier was doing burnouts too.

:lol

 

I'm not saying Gordon wasn't wronged, but come on, Ambrose didn't spin Robby on purpose, and then to repeatedly defy NASCAR and then purposely take out Ambrose even though he shouldn't have been anywhere near Ambrose, I don't see how he was pefectly justified in doing that. I felt bad for him, but he's gotta control his emotions.

 

I did see Carpentier's burnout too I just thought it was funny Robby got right next to where Harvick was doing his.

bulls***. I would have done the same thing. And its not like a driver has never not answered a black flag before. Look at Tony Stewart in the 2001 Pepsi 400.

even if he did mean to spin him out, that's no excuse for what he did after that. From my view Gordon slowed down because he thought it was a yellow flag (like he said he did) and Ambrose did not because the yellow hadn't come out yet.

 

You're right it has happened before and Stewart was penalized then just like Gordon should be penalized now. Stewart didn't take anybody out after he had been black flagged either.

I'm so glad Gordon wrecked him. The caution flag was waving when Ambrose spun him out. He should have been the leader. He got screwed. What he did was completely justifiable.

 

And Carpentier was doing burnouts too.

:lol

 

I'm not saying Gordon wasn't wronged, but come on, Ambrose didn't spin Robby on purpose, and then to repeatedly defy NASCAR and then purposely take out Ambrose even though he shouldn't have been anywhere near Ambrose, I don't see how he was pefectly justified in doing that. I felt bad for him, but he's gotta control his emotions.

 

I did see Carpentier's burnout too I just thought it was funny Robby got right next to where Harvick was doing his.

bulls***. I would have done the same thing. And its not like a driver has never not answered a black flag before. Look at Tony Stewart in the 2001 Pepsi 400.

even if he did mean to spin him out, that's no excuse for what he did after that. From my view Gordon slowed down because he thought it was a yellow flag (like he said he did) and Ambrose did not because the yellow hadn't come out yet.

 

You're right it has happened before and Stewart was penalized then just like Gordon should be penalized now. Stewart didn't take anybody out after he had been black flagged either.

The yellow flag was out when Gordon started slowing down. On the replay, you can see the flag man behind the fence waving the yellow flag. The caution was clearly out when Ambrose spun Gordon. Gordon should have been able to go back to first place and he probably would have won the race. He got screwed. What he did was completely justifiable.

 

Gordon probably will be penalized but I doubt he cares.

I don't think what he did was justifiable, however, he did have a case.

I'm so glad Gordon wrecked him. The caution flag was waving when Ambrose spun him out. He should have been the leader. He got screwed. What he did was completely justifiable.

 

And Carpentier was doing burnouts too.

:lol

 

I'm not saying Gordon wasn't wronged, but come on, Ambrose didn't spin Robby on purpose, and then to repeatedly defy NASCAR and then purposely take out Ambrose even though he shouldn't have been anywhere near Ambrose, I don't see how he was pefectly justified in doing that. I felt bad for him, but he's gotta control his emotions.

 

I did see Carpentier's burnout too I just thought it was funny Robby got right next to where Harvick was doing his.

bulls***. I would have done the same thing. And its not like a driver has never not answered a black flag before. Look at Tony Stewart in the 2001 Pepsi 400.

even if he did mean to spin him out, that's no excuse for what he did after that. From my view Gordon slowed down because he thought it was a yellow flag (like he said he did) and Ambrose did not because the yellow hadn't come out yet.

 

You're right it has happened before and Stewart was penalized then just like Gordon should be penalized now. Stewart didn't take anybody out after he had been black flagged either.

The yellow flag was out when Gordon started slowing down. On the replay, you can see the flag man behind the fence waving the yellow flag. The caution was clearly out when Ambrose spun Gordon. Gordon should have been able to go back to first place and he probably would have won the race. He got screwed. What he did was completely justifiable.

 

Gordon probably will be penalized but I doubt he cares.

Like I said earlier Gordon probably has a case, but also take into consideration that many times at road course races they throw the yellow flag for just a portion of the race track if there is a spin or something. That may have been why we saw the yellow flag before NASCAR officially threw the caution for the whole field. Not saying that's what happened, but that's just one possible explanation.

I'm so glad Gordon wrecked him. The caution flag was waving when Ambrose spun him out. He should have been the leader. He got screwed. What he did was completely justifiable.

 

And Carpentier was doing burnouts too.

:lol

 

I'm not saying Gordon wasn't wronged, but come on, Ambrose didn't spin Robby on purpose, and then to repeatedly defy NASCAR and then purposely take out Ambrose even though he shouldn't have been anywhere near Ambrose, I don't see how he was pefectly justified in doing that. I felt bad for him, but he's gotta control his emotions.

 

I did see Carpentier's burnout too I just thought it was funny Robby got right next to where Harvick was doing his.

bulls***. I would have done the same thing. And its not like a driver has never not answered a black flag before. Look at Tony Stewart in the 2001 Pepsi 400.

even if he did mean to spin him out, that's no excuse for what he did after that. From my view Gordon slowed down because he thought it was a yellow flag (like he said he did) and Ambrose did not because the yellow hadn't come out yet.

 

You're right it has happened before and Stewart was penalized then just like Gordon should be penalized now. Stewart didn't take anybody out after he had been black flagged either.

The yellow flag was out when Gordon started slowing down. On the replay, you can see the flag man behind the fence waving the yellow flag. The caution was clearly out when Ambrose spun Gordon. Gordon should have been able to go back to first place and he probably would have won the race. He got screwed. What he did was completely justifiable.

 

Gordon probably will be penalized but I doubt he cares.

Like I said earlier Gordon probably has a case, but also take into consideration that many times at road course races they throw the yellow flag for just a portion of the race track if there is a spin or something. That may have been why we saw the yellow flag before NASCAR officially threw the caution for the whole field. Not saying that's what happened, but that's just one possible explanation.

It was a full course caution.

I'm so glad Gordon wrecked him. The caution flag was waving when Ambrose spun him out. He should have been the leader. He got screwed. What he did was completely justifiable.

 

And Carpentier was doing burnouts too.

:lol

 

I'm not saying Gordon wasn't wronged, but come on, Ambrose didn't spin Robby on purpose, and then to repeatedly defy NASCAR and then purposely take out Ambrose even though he shouldn't have been anywhere near Ambrose, I don't see how he was pefectly justified in doing that. I felt bad for him, but he's gotta control his emotions.

 

I did see Carpentier's burnout too I just thought it was funny Robby got right next to where Harvick was doing his.

bulls***. I would have done the same thing. And its not like a driver has never not answered a black flag before. Look at Tony Stewart in the 2001 Pepsi 400.

even if he did mean to spin him out, that's no excuse for what he did after that. From my view Gordon slowed down because he thought it was a yellow flag (like he said he did) and Ambrose did not because the yellow hadn't come out yet.

 

You're right it has happened before and Stewart was penalized then just like Gordon should be penalized now. Stewart didn't take anybody out after he had been black flagged either.

The yellow flag was out when Gordon started slowing down. On the replay, you can see the flag man behind the fence waving the yellow flag. The caution was clearly out when Ambrose spun Gordon. Gordon should have been able to go back to first place and he probably would have won the race. He got screwed. What he did was completely justifiable.

 

Gordon probably will be penalized but I doubt he cares.

Like I said earlier Gordon probably has a case, but also take into consideration that many times at road course races they throw the yellow flag for just a portion of the race track if there is a spin or something. That may have been why we saw the yellow flag before NASCAR officially threw the caution for the whole field. Not saying that's what happened, but that's just one possible explanation.

It was a full course caution.

eventually, I'm just saying, just because we saw that guy waving the yellow doesn't mean it had officially become a full-course caution at that point.

any video?

I'm so glad Gordon wrecked him. The caution flag was waving when Ambrose spun him out. He should have been the leader. He got screwed. What he did was completely justifiable.

 

And Carpentier was doing burnouts too.

:lol

 

I'm not saying Gordon wasn't wronged, but come on, Ambrose didn't spin Robby on purpose, and then to repeatedly defy NASCAR and then purposely take out Ambrose even though he shouldn't have been anywhere near Ambrose, I don't see how he was pefectly justified in doing that. I felt bad for him, but he's gotta control his emotions.

 

I did see Carpentier's burnout too I just thought it was funny Robby got right next to where Harvick was doing his.

bulls***. I would have done the same thing. And its not like a driver has never not answered a black flag before. Look at Tony Stewart in the 2001 Pepsi 400.

even if he did mean to spin him out, that's no excuse for what he did after that. From my view Gordon slowed down because he thought it was a yellow flag (like he said he did) and Ambrose did not because the yellow hadn't come out yet.

 

You're right it has happened before and Stewart was penalized then just like Gordon should be penalized now. Stewart didn't take anybody out after he had been black flagged either.

The yellow flag was out when Gordon started slowing down. On the replay, you can see the flag man behind the fence waving the yellow flag. The caution was clearly out when Ambrose spun Gordon. Gordon should have been able to go back to first place and he probably would have won the race. He got screwed. What he did was completely justifiable.

 

Gordon probably will be penalized but I doubt he cares.

Like I said earlier Gordon probably has a case, but also take into consideration that many times at road course races they throw the yellow flag for just a portion of the race track if there is a spin or something. That may have been why we saw the yellow flag before NASCAR officially threw the caution for the whole field. Not saying that's what happened, but that's just one possible explanation.

It was a full course caution.

eventually, I'm just saying, just because we saw that guy waving the yellow doesn't mean it had officially become a full-course caution at that point.

When a yellow comes out at a road course, it's a full course caution. Besides, that wreck was directly behind the leaders, on the same part of the track and it was a pileup. If the full course yellow hadn't have come out and the leaders drove over that part of the track (or any other car for that matter) there would have been another wreck because of the oil. You saw how much speedy-dry they put down, right?

 

You can't just bring out a caution on one part of the track. It doesn't happen.

When a yellow comes out at a road course, it's a full course caution. Besides, that wreck was directly behind the leaders, on the same part of the track and it was a pileup. If the full course yellow hadn't have come out and the leaders drove over that part of the track (or any other car for that matter) there would have been another wreck because of the oil. You saw how much speedy-dry they put down, right?

 

You can't just bring out a caution on one part of the track. It doesn't happen.

They weren't even close that part of the track at the time of Gordon's spin, so not sure where you are going with that, and they do put up a caution flag if there is a minor spin in a turn, without putting the whole field under caution, it happens all the time. Why do you think they use the term "full-course caution" during a road race. I agree the caution should've come out by then I just can't say for sure that I know it did.

When a yellow comes out at a road course, it's a full course caution. Besides, that wreck was directly behind the leaders, on the same part of the track and it was a pileup. If the full course yellow hadn't have come out and the leaders drove over that part of the track (or any other car for that matter) there would have been another wreck because of the oil. You saw how much speedy-dry they put down, right?

 

You can't just bring out a caution on one part of the track. It doesn't happen.

They weren't even close that part of the track at the time of Gordon's spin, so not sure where you are going with that, and they do put up a caution flag if there is a minor spin in a turn, without putting the whole field under caution, it happens all the time. Why do you think they use the term "full-course caution" during a road race. I agree the caution should've come out by then I just can't say for sure that I know it did.

That was much more than a minor spin. It was 15 car pileup. And when a car goes off track at a road course, no caution comes out. Maybe if it's a one car spin in the middle of the track, yes. But when a car gets off course, no. And when that happens, the yellow flag is never displayed like it was through that fence. Robby's spotter probably got on his radio and said "huge wreck behind you, caution's out" so he started slowing down and Ambrose punted him.

 

The field is frozen at the time of caution, not 20 seconds after it.

That was much more than a minor spin. It was 15 car pileup. And when a car goes off track at a road course, no caution comes out. Maybe if it's a one car spin in the middle of the track, yes. But when a car gets off course, no. And when that happens, the yellow flag is never displayed like it was through that fence. Robby's spotter probably got on his radio and said "huge wreck behind you, caution's out" so he started slowing down and Ambrose punted him.

 

The field is frozen at the time of caution, not 20 seconds after it.

I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand. In road course racing, there is such thing as a local yellow that can be thrown in the area of a wreck, in which a yellow flag is posted just in the area of that wreck, and no official caution is brought out. A local yellow could've been thrown, before NASCAR officially went to a full-course yellow, and the yellow flag we all saw could've been a local yellow. I'm not even saying that's what happened though.

 

We'll just have to wait to see what NASCAR says really happened. Could be that Robby just got screwed, I'm just bringing up an alternate explanation.

Robby Gordon Suspended from Pocono Race? Hearing that NASCAR will suspend #7-Robby Gordon from Sunday's Pennsylvania 500 at Pocono for his actions in Saturday's Busch race at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve. For more info on his actions in the race, see my Busch Series page. P.J. Jones practiced the #7 Saturday at Pocono and would be the likely substitute driver.(8-4-2007)

 

 

-Jayski

 

 

 

 

Hmm.

That was much more than a minor spin. It was 15 car pileup. And when a car goes off track at a road course, no caution comes out. Maybe if it's a one car spin in the middle of the track, yes. But when a car gets off course, no. And when that happens, the yellow flag is never displayed like it was through that fence. Robby's spotter probably got on his radio and said "huge wreck behind you, caution's out" so he started slowing down and Ambrose punted him.

 

The field is frozen at the time of caution, not 20 seconds after it.

I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand. In road course racing, there is such thing as a local yellow that can be thrown in the area of a wreck, in which a yellow flag is posted just in the area of that wreck, and no official caution is brought out. A local yellow could've been thrown, before NASCAR officially went to a full-course yellow, and the yellow flag we all saw could've been a local yellow. I'm not even saying that's what happened though.

 

We'll just have to wait to see what NASCAR says really happened. Could be that Robby just got screwed, I'm just bringing up an alternate explanation.

I guess. But I doubt that's what happened.

I just saw another replay. When Ambrose spun Gordon, the caution flag was waving AHEAD of the leaders. So it's not possible that the caution was not out on that part of the track.

what a bunch of freaking crap.

 

 

in all ways.

 

 

screw you nascar.

 

 

 

i hope robby wins next week and tells NASCAR where to shove it.