December 16, 200718 yr Boy you have terrible reading comprehension. Speaking of carpetbaggers, since when wasn't Wayne Huizenga from Chicago via New Jersey? Since when hasn't he taken now two South Florida franchises (or is it three) to near ruination while lining his pockets every step of the way? Talk about your pot calling the kettle black and revisionist history. I really loved the line about how Wayne wants what's best for all of South Florida (...oh god help me, I know my failing is I don't suffer fools well). Let's ask how Broward County feels about their dealings with his organization or Miami when his family gained control of the Miami Arena Authority and made sure to drive hockey from what had been a very good venue for the sport. But I can't stop laughing at the "Wayne...does do what is best for the interests of South Florida as a whole" line. Dave Hyde is that you? That was just precious. Umm.. last time I checked AutoNation was based in Fort Lauderdale, so was (is) Republic Industries, so are most of his houses, so was Blockbuster before he sold it to Viacomm. Last time I checked the Huizenga name was on more than a few school buildings down here. How many does Mickey Arison have, how many does jeffrey Loria have? I'd say he cares plenty about South Florida compared to other people in his situation. Yes Wayne is from up north, he's also like 70-something how many native 70-something Floridians do you know? Now seriously, take your time and answer this question for me. What is your idea of a good sports team owner? Take your time, look around. Find one owner that is willing to take a serious financial hit to please his fans with any sort of frequency. Find me one guy who is willing to let the fans dictate how he runs things all while getting a decent return on his investment and winning enough to take the heat off his own arse. I mean it, never mind anything else I've said. Forget about the title of this post and just answer that with a strait face.
December 16, 200718 yr It was The Miami Herald has an article on him on the website According to the PBP it is Stephen Ross, a real estate developer that recently bought a mansion on Palm Beach for $32 mil, and his partner, Miami real estate developer Jorge Perez. But it seems Ross is in charge. The NFL has said any owner would have to be worth around $2 bil, and Ross's estimated net worth is in the $4.5 bil area. They supposedly have put in a bid for $900 mil. Which would make sense seeing the team is one of the worst all around (coaching, players, and FO) in the NFL right now and about to lose income from the Marlins as well. But then later in the same article they say that Ross is one, Perez is another, and Raul Fernandez, owner of the Washington Capitals, is another. The article also stated that Wayne is ticked off the deal was leaked to the press and that may be a deal breaker. So I guess it is who is reporting the story and what you want to believe.
December 16, 200718 yr Whether anyone likes it or not there is going to be a splitting of what is now Dolphin Stadium-centric revenue that is going cut the bottom line of the Huizenga Holdings in half. And don't be surprised if when the Marlins move out the legislature finally does what it should have done long ago and take back from HH the Marlins sales tax rebate they have been using for years to keep the Dolphins organization fat, dumb and happy. I'm not so sure that can be done. Isn't that tax break actually given to the stadium and not the team specifically? Isn't that what the city and county have been arguing all these years while trying to get another one? We have been told continuously through the press that the Marlins are helping the city and county in their efforts to get the tax break from the state but that it falls on them to actually do the campaigning for it. To me that means it dosen't actually go for the team but instead to the stadium. Or if it is for the team specifically, I imagine it wouldn't be taken away, just changed over to the Dolphins for the remainder of the deal. Which would open the door for the City of Miami and Miami-Dade County to get back in line and try again for the rebate. And in all fairness, I doubt very much a $2 mil per year tax rebate is keeping the Dolphins organization "fat, dumb, and happy." That piddly amount wouldn't even pay the FO's salaries.
December 16, 200718 yr Boy you have terrible reading comprehension. Speaking of carpetbaggers, since when wasn't Wayne Huizenga from Chicago via New Jersey? Since when hasn't he taken now two South Florida franchises (or is it three) to near ruination while lining his pockets every step of the way? Talk about your pot calling the kettle black and revisionist history. I really loved the line about how Wayne wants what's best for all of South Florida (...oh god help me, I know my failing is I don't suffer fools well). Let's ask how Broward County feels about their dealings with his organization or Miami when his family gained control of the Miami Arena Authority and made sure to drive hockey from what had been a very good venue for the sport. But I can't stop laughing at the "Wayne...does do what is best for the interests of South Florida as a whole" line. Dave Hyde is that you? That was just precious. Umm.. last time I checked AutoNation was based in Fort Lauderdale, so was (is) Republic Industries, so are most of his houses, so was Blockbuster before he sold it to Viacomm. Last time I checked the Huizenga name was on more than a few school buildings down here. How many does Mickey Arison have, how many does jeffrey Loria have? I'd say he cares plenty about South Florida compared to other people in his situation. Yes Wayne is from up north, he's also like 70-something how many native 70-something Floridians do you know? Now seriously, take your time and answer this question for me. What is your idea of a good sports team owner? Take your time, look around. Find one owner that is willing to take a serious financial hit to please his fans with any sort of frequency. Find me one guy who is willing to let the fans dictate how he runs things all while getting a decent return on his investment and winning enough to take the heat off his own arse. I mean it, never mind anything else I've said. Forget about the title of this post and just answer that with a strait face. Seeing how you asked for just one... Green Bay Packers. The owners are the fans. That would also be my idea of the best sports team owner. And no I am not implying anything. I don't agree with everything 2003 says, but I am agreeing with him on this one. You appear to be proud to be a Wayne apologist. You are definetly in the wrong forum for that to be taken seriously.
December 17, 200718 yr Boy you have terrible reading comprehension. Speaking of carpetbaggers, since when wasn't Wayne Huizenga from Chicago via New Jersey? Since when hasn't he taken now two South Florida franchises (or is it three) to near ruination while lining his pockets every step of the way? Talk about your pot calling the kettle black and revisionist history. I really loved the line about how Wayne wants what's best for all of South Florida (...oh god help me, I know my failing is I don't suffer fools well). Let's ask how Broward County feels about their dealings with his organization or Miami when his family gained control of the Miami Arena Authority and made sure to drive hockey from what had been a very good venue for the sport. But I can't stop laughing at the "Wayne...does do what is best for the interests of South Florida as a whole" line. Dave Hyde is that you? That was just precious. I'll have to disagree on the wrong forum issue. That is exactly what this forum needs, a difference of opinion. How would it all pan out if everyone agreed on everything here. The differences is what makes this forum great, Wayne apologists or not. Umm.. last time I checked AutoNation was based in Fort Lauderdale, so was (is) Republic Industries, so are most of his houses, so was Blockbuster before he sold it to Viacomm. Last time I checked the Huizenga name was on more than a few school buildings down here. How many does Mickey Arison have, how many does jeffrey Loria have? I'd say he cares plenty about South Florida compared to other people in his situation. Yes Wayne is from up north, he's also like 70-something how many native 70-something Floridians do you know? Now seriously, take your time and answer this question for me. What is your idea of a good sports team owner? Take your time, look around. Find one owner that is willing to take a serious financial hit to please his fans with any sort of frequency. Find me one guy who is willing to let the fans dictate how he runs things all while getting a decent return on his investment and winning enough to take the heat off his own arse. I mean it, never mind anything else I've said. Forget about the title of this post and just answer that with a strait face. Seeing how you asked for just one... Green Bay Packers. The owners are the fans. That would also be my idea of the best sports team owner. And no I am not implying anything. I don't agree with everything 2003 says, but I am agreeing with him on this one. You appear to be proud to be a Wayne apologist. You are definetly in the wrong forum for that to be taken seriously.
December 17, 200718 yr Boy you have terrible reading comprehension. Speaking of carpetbaggers, since when wasn't Wayne Huizenga from Chicago via New Jersey? Since when hasn't he taken now two South Florida franchises (or is it three) to near ruination while lining his pockets every step of the way? Talk about your pot calling the kettle black and revisionist history. I really loved the line about how Wayne wants what's best for all of South Florida (...oh god help me, I know my failing is I don't suffer fools well). Let's ask how Broward County feels about their dealings with his organization or Miami when his family gained control of the Miami Arena Authority and made sure to drive hockey from what had been a very good venue for the sport. But I can't stop laughing at the "Wayne...does do what is best for the interests of South Florida as a whole" line. Dave Hyde is that you? That was just precious. Umm.. last time I checked AutoNation was based in Fort Lauderdale, so was (is) Republic Industries, so are most of his houses, so was Blockbuster before he sold it to Viacomm. Last time I checked the Huizenga name was on more than a few school buildings down here. How many does Mickey Arison have, how many does jeffrey Loria have? I'd say he cares plenty about South Florida compared to other people in his situation. Yes Wayne is from up north, he's also like 70-something how many native 70-something Floridians do you know? Now seriously, take your time and answer this question for me. What is your idea of a good sports team owner? Take your time, look around. Find one owner that is willing to take a serious financial hit to please his fans with any sort of frequency. Find me one guy who is willing to let the fans dictate how he runs things all while getting a decent return on his investment and winning enough to take the heat off his own arse. I mean it, never mind anything else I've said. Forget about the title of this post and just answer that with a strait face. Seeing how you asked for just one... Green Bay Packers. The owners are the fans. That would also be my idea of the best sports team owner. And no I am not implying anything. I don't agree with everything 2003 says, but I am agreeing with him on this one. You appear to be proud to be a Wayne apologist. You are definetly in the wrong forum for that to be taken seriously. I'll have to disagree on the wrong forum issue. That is exactly what this forum needs, a difference of opinion. How would it all pan out if everyone agreed on everything here. The differences is what makes this forum great, Wayne apologists or not.
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