next up: Hank Aaron vs. Ty Cobb

lol, barry bonds lost and got advanced again

I don't think it should be best player, this should compare best hitters.

 

Best hitter = Ted Williams

Ted Williams was a better contact hitter. Bonds is a better power hitter, baserunner, fielder, and has a stronger arm than Williams had

has Babe been eliminated yet?

has Babe been eliminated yet?

Lol. Good point

Ted Williams was a better contact hitter. Bonds is a better power hitter, baserunner, fielder, and has a stronger arm than Williams had

Remember to consider the 5 lost years on Ted William's career

 

btw,

"baserunner, fielder, and has a stronger arm "

 

Yes, Bonds is above average on this categories. But not the greatest or even close with the greatest

if you combine the "5 tools" (contact, power, baserunning, glove, arm), the only person that tops Barry is Mays

if you combine the "5 tools" (contact, power, baserunning, glove, arm), the only person that tops Barry is Mays

I'm pretty sure of all the position players all time, Babe Ruth had the best arm. Being he was a hell of a pitcher back in the day.

 

Ted Williams > Barry Bonds

well, the big 5 are mays, bonds, aaron, ruth, and williams. People negate Bonds only because they don't like him as a person, but what does that have to do with anything?

well, the big 5 are mays, bonds, aaron, ruth, and williams. People negate Bonds only because they don't like him as a person, but what does that have to do with anything?

No, they negate Bonds because he roids and because he hasn't earned all of this. Mays, Ruth, Aaron, Williams, Cobb, all were better and there might be a couple more.

Have you seen him use steroids? Show me anything where it's proof, evidence, or reason to believe he uses steroids

Have you seen him use steroids? Show me anything where it's proof, evidence, or reason to believe he uses steroids

Show me proof, evidence, or reason to believe he doesn't. I have reasonable doubt on my side, you cannot say the same.

how about the fact that there isn't any proof he does. He does not have any of the effects of steroids, i.e. violent tempers, deep voices, buff in a deformed way, major injuries, etc. etc.

how about the fact that there isn't any proof he does. He does not have any of the effects of steroids, i.e. violent tempers, deep voices, buff in a deformed way, major injuries, etc. etc.

He has 2 and half of those.

 

Plus, how do you refute the fact that he has given interviews in magazines saying he used supplements from BALCO labs, and now BALCO labs got busted for having illegal steroids?

 

The plot thickens.....

so what? Balco makes hundreds of legal supplements, stuff that winds up at GNC. And do you know what Balco's being busted for? Tax fraud.

And they're talking about how Balco created THC because it doesn't test positive on drug tests? If Bonds were to take something, he would just take it, he wouldn't need something like THC to block it on drug tests.

so what? Balco makes hundreds of legal supplements, stuff that winds up at GNC. And do you know what Balco's being busted for? Tax fraud.

And they're talking about how Balco created THC because it doesn't test positive on drug tests? If Bonds were to take something, he would just take it, he wouldn't need something like THC to block it on drug tests.

THC is a steroid, not something that blocks steroids from being detected.

 

And BALCO is being busted for more than one thing.

I vote for Miguel Cabrera..(oh, that's right, I'm back in the past...his career has just started at this point in time...)

 

*hops back in DeLorean*

 

Giantsin04 Why does Barry Bonds keep losing and keeps advancing ? And who the F*** is Barry Bonds ?

well, the big 5 are mays, bonds, aaron, ruth, and williams. People negate Bonds only because they don't like him as a person, but what does that have to do with anything?

I negate Bonds as the BEST PLAYER because his lifetime AVG. is below .300, his Career OPS is 1.035 (compared to Babe's 1.164), he won't get close to 3,000 hits, and most importantly, Ruth got his statistics in the dead ball era.

 

My list:

 

Ruth

Aaron

Mays

Williams

Cobb

Musial

and so on..

Musial

Stan The Man.....Most underrated player ever