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2008-2009 NBA Trade Deadline Official Thread


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Since there have been a few major moves in the NBA this early into the season, been thinking that it would be a great time to create an official thread where people could discuss any trades that happen, gossip on the rumors throughout the league, and give their own trade proposals as I've seen on so many message boards. Remember that the trade deadline for the NBA is February 19th.

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With several trades having already been completed in the NBA, this has really got me thinking about the Miami Heat and trades that could help improve this team. So, using the ESPN Trade Machine, I have created some reasonable trade proposals involving the Miami Heat that I would like to get your opinions on.

 

1. The Miami Heat trade F Shawn Marion and PG Marcus Banks to the Sacramento Kings for C Brad Miller, PG Bobby Jackson, and SG Quincy Douby.

 

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trad...p;te=&cash=

 

Reasoning: Throughout the season, it has become quite obvious that the Miami Heat need a true bigman in the middle and that Shawn Marion really doesn't fit the system. Brad Miller would come in and be the perfect fit at center for the Heat while Marion would bring his massive expiring contract to the Kings to replace Artest. The Heat also rid themselves of Marcus Banks's contract while getting back a nice, veteran PG with an expiring contract in Bobby Jackson.

 

2. The Miami Heat trade C Mark Blount to the New York Knicks for F Malik Rose and a future 2nd round draft pick.

 

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trad...p;te=&cash=

 

Reasoning: The Miami Heat, after acquiring Miller, would no longer need Mark Blount as he has been sparingingly used as it is. In order to rid themselves of his contract and acquire an expiring contract, the Heat would make this move. The Heat could then look to buy out Malik Rose and clear cap room for next season and beyond.

 

With these moves, the Miami Heat would improve their team and place themselves in a better cap situation for the 2010 season when several major free agents will be on the market.

 

New Depth Chart:

 

C Brad Miller Jamaal Magloire Joel Anthony

 

PF Udonis Haslem Joel Anthony Malik Rose (if not bought out)

 

SF Michael Beasley Yakhouba Diawara Dorell Wright (injured) James Jones (injured)

 

PG Mario Chalmers Bobby Jackson Chris Quinn Shaun Livingston

 

SG Dwayne Wade Daquean Cook Quincy Douby

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Brad Miller isn't dominating inside the paint, and he wouldn't be a major improvement. We need a rebounder. I would rather keep Marion. Also, Blount isn't of any value to any team, I see the heat only getting a 2nd round pick and would have to take a lot of his contract in order to trade him.

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With several trades having already been completed in the NBA, this has really got me thinking about the Miami Heat and trades that could help improve this team. So, using the ESPN Trade Machine, I have created some reasonable trade proposals involving the Miami Heat that I would like to get your opinions on.

 

1. The Miami Heat trade F Shawn Marion and PG Marcus Banks to the Sacramento Kings for C Brad Miller, PG Bobby Jackson, and SG Quincy Douby.

 

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trad...p;te=&cash=

 

Reasoning: Throughout the season, it has become quite obvious that the Miami Heat need a true bigman in the middle and that Shawn Marion really doesn't fit the system. Brad Miller would come in and be the perfect fit at center for the Heat while Marion would bring his massive expiring contract to the Kings to replace Artest. The Heat also rid themselves of Marcus Banks's contract while getting back a nice, veteran PG with an expiring contract in Bobby Jackson.

 

2. The Miami Heat trade C Mark Blount to the New York Knicks for F Malik Rose and a future 2nd round draft pick.

 

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trad...p;te=&cash=

 

Reasoning: The Miami Heat, after acquiring Miller, would no longer need Mark Blount as he has been sparingingly used as it is. In order to rid themselves of his contract and acquire an expiring contract, the Heat would make this move. The Heat could then look to buy out Malik Rose and clear cap room for next season and beyond.

 

With these moves, the Miami Heat would improve their team and place themselves in a better cap situation for the 2010 season when several major free agents will be on the market.

 

New Depth Chart:

 

C Brad Miller Jamaal Magloire Joel Anthony

 

PF Udonis Haslem Joel Anthony Malik Rose (if not bought out)

 

SF Michael Beasley Yakhouba Diawara Dorell Wright (injured) James Jones (injured)

 

PG Mario Chalmers Bobby Jackson Chris Quinn Shaun Livingston

 

SG Dwayne Wade Daquean Cook Quincy Douby

 

 

I'm sure the Heat would love those trades, but the other teams wouldn't.

 

The Kings are one of the worst teams in the Western Conference, and have no shot at making the playoffs. Because of that, they aren't going to trade one of their best players and a couple role players for a guy that is way overpriced, overrated, and would lead them nowhere. Miller is also only an inch taller than Haslem, and has less rebounds than either Haslem or Marion this season, which would mean he wouldn't improve the rebounding situation for Miami.

 

The second one wouldn't work because there is no way the Knicks would give up a second round pick and give up more cash for a player who is barely an upgrade over Rose.

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According to Bill Ingram at Hoopsworld.com and a few sources, the Miami Heat and Sacramento Kings are discussing a possible trade that would be centered around Shawn Marion going to the Kings and Brad Miller coming to the Heat. Beyond that, details are quite obscure and would be pure speculation. Of course other players would have to be added to such a deal to balance salaries. Will keep everyone updated on the situation as more info becomes available.

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According to Bill Ingram at Hoopsworld.com and a few sources, the Miami Heat and Sacramento Kings are discussing a possible trade that would be centered around Shawn Marion going to the Kings and Brad Miller coming to the Heat. Beyond that, details are quite obscure and would be pure speculation. Of course other players would have to be added to such a deal to balance salaries. Will keep everyone updated on the situation as more info becomes available.

 

 

That would be a great trade! Miller comes cheaper, and his contract expires right before summer 2010, where all the big FA's come out. That would allow us to have a good rebounder, and both Beasley and Haslem would be able to start.

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BREAKING NEWS: Three Team Trade Between Wizards, Grizzlies, and Hornets

 

According to several reports, the Memphis Grizzlies, New Orleans Hornets, and Washington Wizards completed a three team trade this morning. The Washington Wizards will acquire promising young PG Javaris Crittenton from the Grizzlies and G Mike James from the Hornets, the Memphis Grizzlies get their 2009 draft pick back that they traded to Washington for PG Juan Carlos Navarro, and the New Orleans Hornets acquire PG Antonio Daniels. In my mind, this is a great trade for all sides.

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BREAKING NEWS: Suns Acquire Jason Richardson

 

According to published reports, the Pheonix Suns have acquired Jason Richardson from the Charlotte Bobcats. In the deal, the Charlotte Bobcats acquire PF Boirs Diaw and defensive specialist Raja Bell along with G Sean Singletary. The Suns will also get F Jared Dudley and a future 2nd Round Draft Pick.

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Now, we all know that the Miami Heat haven't come directly out and stated that Shawn Marion is either on or off the trading block, but it appears that the Heat have had multiple conversations with a few teams around the league regarding Marion.

 

Throughout the week, Hoopsworld continued to maintain that they expect to see Shawn Marion shipped to Sacramento in a deal that would send a package to Miami that would include veteran C Brad Miller. According to several sources, the Kings have offered Brad Miller and Kenny Thomas to Miami for Shawn Marion. Miami has not yet given them a response back on that trade offer.

 

Now comes a report from Yahoo Sports that details possible trade discussions ongoing between the Heat and the Cavaliers. Based upon his sources (none of mine have been able to confirm it), it appears that the Cavaliers are offering C/PF Anderson Varajeo and SF/SG Wally Szczerbiak to the Miami Heat for F Shawn Marion. Just speculating here, but the Heat may be looking for the Cavs to take PG Marcus Banks off their hands in order for the Heat to agree to such a trade. The reasoning for this trade offer is really hard to find for both sides, if you ask me.

 

As more reports come out and more details on these trade talks become available, I will bring them to you.

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With several trades having already been completed in the NBA, this has really got me thinking about the Miami Heat and trades that could help improve this team. So, using the ESPN Trade Machine, I have created some reasonable trade proposals involving the Miami Heat that I would like to get your opinions on.

 

1. The Miami Heat trade F Shawn Marion and PG Marcus Banks to the Sacramento Kings for C Brad Miller, PG Bobby Jackson, and SG Quincy Douby.

 

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trad...p;te=&cash=

 

Reasoning: Throughout the season, it has become quite obvious that the Miami Heat need a true bigman in the middle and that Shawn Marion really doesn't fit the system. Brad Miller would come in and be the perfect fit at center for the Heat while Marion would bring his massive expiring contract to the Kings to replace Artest. The Heat also rid themselves of Marcus Banks's contract while getting back a nice, veteran PG with an expiring contract in Bobby Jackson.

 

2. The Miami Heat trade C Mark Blount to the New York Knicks for F Malik Rose and a future 2nd round draft pick.

 

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trad...p;te=&cash=

 

Reasoning: The Miami Heat, after acquiring Miller, would no longer need Mark Blount as he has been sparingingly used as it is. In order to rid themselves of his contract and acquire an expiring contract, the Heat would make this move. The Heat could then look to buy out Malik Rose and clear cap room for next season and beyond.

 

With these moves, the Miami Heat would improve their team and place themselves in a better cap situation for the 2010 season when several major free agents will be on the market.

 

New Depth Chart:

 

C Brad Miller Jamaal Magloire Joel Anthony

 

PF Udonis Haslem Joel Anthony Malik Rose (if not bought out)

 

SF Michael Beasley Yakhouba Diawara Dorell Wright (injured) James Jones (injured)

 

PG Mario Chalmers Bobby Jackson Chris Quinn Shaun Livingston

 

SG Dwayne Wade Daquean Cook Quincy Douby

 

 

I'm sure the Heat would love those trades, but the other teams wouldn't.

 

The Kings are one of the worst teams in the Western Conference, and have no shot at making the playoffs. Because of that, they aren't going to trade one of their best players and a couple role players for a guy that is way overpriced, overrated, and would lead them nowhere. Miller is also only an inch taller than Haslem, and has less rebounds than either Haslem or Marion this season, which would mean he wouldn't improve the rebounding situation for Miami.

 

The second one wouldn't work because there is no way the Knicks would give up a second round pick and give up more cash for a player who is barely an upgrade over Rose.

 

hey hey what's up with all the hating on the kings. kings are my favorite team and we're going to have the best front court in a couple seasons with jason thompson and spencer hawes.

 

on another note i'd do that trade in a heartbeat because marion's contract expires after this season while miller's contract is for 2 more seasons. also miller is one of the best big man play makers which would put pressure off of chalmers and wade to create plays for others. miller is better than any front court players the heat have anyway (haslem, anthony).

 

GO KINGS!!!!!!!!!!!

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BREAKING NEWS: Suns Acquire Jason Richardson

 

According to published reports, the Pheonix Suns have acquired Jason Richardson from the Charlotte Bobcats. In the deal, the Charlotte Bobcats acquire PF Boirs Diaw and defensive specialist Raja Bell along with G Sean Singletary. The Suns will also get F Jared Dudley and a future 2nd Round Draft Pick.

 

i don't get this move by the suns. they say they're focusing on defense but they acquired another shooter who plays no defense. meanwhile amare is complaining that he wants more shot opportunities and richardson will take away shots from amare. also i think diaw has a chance to be a good player in charlotte because he flourished in phoenix when amare was injured and he was the 3rd offensive option behind nash and marion. now that they have nash, shaq, amare, hill, and barnes the shot opportunites dwindled for diaw. i expect him to average 13-15 ppg with the bobcats since he'll only be behind wallace and okafor for shot attempts.

 

i read that the bobcats might send diaw and bell to new york to reunite them with d'antoni after the 60 requirement for trading a player after acquiring them from another team.

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Now, we all know that the Miami Heat haven't come directly out and stated that Shawn Marion is either on or off the trading block, but it appears that the Heat have had multiple conversations with a few teams around the league regarding Marion.

 

Throughout the week, Hoopsworld continued to maintain that they expect to see Shawn Marion shipped to Sacramento in a deal that would send a package to Miami that would include veteran C Brad Miller. According to several sources, the Kings have offered Brad Miller and Kenny Thomas to Miami for Shawn Marion. Miami has not yet given them a response back on that trade offer.

 

Now comes a report from Yahoo Sports that details possible trade discussions ongoing between the Heat and the Cavaliers. Based upon his sources (none of mine have been able to confirm it), it appears that the Cavaliers are offering C/PF Anderson Varajeo and SF/SG Wally Szczerbiak to the Miami Heat for F Shawn Marion. Just speculating here, but the Heat may be looking for the Cavs to take PG Marcus Banks off their hands in order for the Heat to agree to such a trade. The reasoning for this trade offer is really hard to find for both sides, if you ask me.

 

As more reports come out and more details on these trade talks become available, I will bring them to you.

 

 

Gotta love tracking sports rumors and analyzing the validity of sources. Seems now that both the Miami Heat and Cleveland Cavaliers have emphatically denied these reports and have not been in discussions regarding Shawn Marion. So, consider the Heat-Cavs rumor debunked now. Through Shawn Marion's agent, Marion believes that he's staying with the Heat through the season now. Only time will tell.

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Now, we all know that the Miami Heat haven't come directly out and stated that Shawn Marion is either on or off the trading block, but it appears that the Heat have had multiple conversations with a few teams around the league regarding Marion.

 

Throughout the week, Hoopsworld continued to maintain that they expect to see Shawn Marion shipped to Sacramento in a deal that would send a package to Miami that would include veteran C Brad Miller. According to several sources, the Kings have offered Brad Miller and Kenny Thomas to Miami for Shawn Marion. Miami has not yet given them a response back on that trade offer.

 

Now comes a report from Yahoo Sports that details possible trade discussions ongoing between the Heat and the Cavaliers. Based upon his sources (none of mine have been able to confirm it), it appears that the Cavaliers are offering C/PF Anderson Varajeo and SF/SG Wally Szczerbiak to the Miami Heat for F Shawn Marion. Just speculating here, but the Heat may be looking for the Cavs to take PG Marcus Banks off their hands in order for the Heat to agree to such a trade. The reasoning for this trade offer is really hard to find for both sides, if you ask me.

 

As more reports come out and more details on these trade talks become available, I will bring them to you.

 

 

Gotta love tracking sports rumors and analyzing the validity of sources. Seems now that both the Miami Heat and Cleveland Cavaliers have emphatically denied these reports and have not been in discussions regarding Shawn Marion. So, consider the Heat-Cavs rumor debunked now. Through Shawn Marion's agent, Marion believes that he's staying with the Heat through the season now. Only time will tell.

 

shaq trade rumors were also debunked at first :shifty

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BREAKING NEWS: Miami Heat May Acquire Jermaine O'Neal from Raptors

 

According to sources with Yahoo Sports, Hoopsworld, and Real GM, the Miami Heat have been engaged in "substantive" talks with the Toronto Raptors that would involve C Jermaine O'Neal coming to the Miami Heat and F Shawn Marion going to the Toronto Raptors. According to all the reports, the Miami Heat would also send PG Marcus Banks to the Toronto Raptors to match the salaries.

 

Based upon the sources, it seems that Pat Riley has been deadset on acquiring a true center and is not concerned with cap room going into this upcoming offseason, but wants cap room for the 2010 season. Also, Toronto Raptors GM and former Pheonix Sun GM Bryan Colangelo has been clamoring to re-acquire Shawn Marion and has been persistently shopping Jermaine O'Neal so that Andrea Bargnani can take over at center.

 

Given the logic from the two general managers, this trade would make great sense for both teams and would help both teams. Sure many may make the argument that Jermaine O'Neal has been injury-prone, but if healthy, he can be the dominant force that could surge Miami well into the playoffs while giving the Heat massive cap room for the oft-mentioned 2010 offseason.

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When I first heard we might trade Marion for JO, I wasn't happy about it. Right now in their careers I think Marion is a much better player but after really thinking about it, it makes since. A starting 5 of Chalmers, Wade, Beasley, Haslem, O'Neal can play with anyone in the league. Add in Cook and Zo(when he gets back) coming off the bench and I think that team is a legit contender.

 

About Blount, his contract comes off the books this offseason so no matter what he won't be here for much longer.

 

Riley is the man.

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When I first heard we might trade Marion for JO, I wasn't happy about it. Right now in their careers I think Marion is a much better player but after really thinking about it, it makes since. A starting 5 of Chalmers, Wade, Beasley, Haslem, O'Neal can play with anyone in the league. Add in Cook and Zo(when he gets back) coming off the bench and I think that team is a legit contender.

 

About Blount, his contract comes off the books this offseason so no matter what he won't be here for much longer.

 

Riley is the man.

 

Blount has 1 more year after this season left on his contract. He's waaay overpaid, but at least his deal ends by 2010. Plus he'll be a $7 million expiring deal next season and he'll be good trade bait...unlike Banks, who will have 2 years left after this season.

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