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Gammons: Marlins Not Your Typical Small-Market Team

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Marlins aren't your typical small-market team

 

Peter Gammons- ESPN.com

 

This is not about the Mets, who endured what seemed like three years' worth of injuries in 2009, and whose farm system is better than credited. It is about the Marlins and their seven-year record vis-à-vis their divisional rivals in New York, not to mention the Braves and the fact that Florida has finished ahead of Atlanta in each of the past two seasons.

 

This is about owner Jeffrey Loria's figuring out how to cope with a small market and -- until the past few months -- no hope of a real ballpark. He tied up one of the game's best general managers, Admin Beinfest, and his baseball board of directors -- Mike Hill, Dan Jennings, Jim Fleming, Stan Meek et al -- to long-term contracts and enabled them to use scouting and development to try to consistently compete with big-market teams. The Marlins have had the lowest payroll in the National League in each of the past four years; the $104 million for those four years was $45 million less than the Mets' 2009 payroll.

 

And after Chris Coghlan won the 2009 NL Rookie of the Year, and as anyone who follows Florida starts thinking about how Logan Morrison and Mike Stanton could compete for the award the next couple of seasons, take a look at the Marlins' relative seven-year success:

 

Link (Insider access required)

 

Another good entry by the reliable Gammons. At least we have a HOF sportswriter on our side.

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Marlins aren't your typical small-market team

 

Peter Gammons- ESPN.com

 

This is not about the Mets, who endured what seemed like three years' worth of injuries in 2009, and whose farm system is better than credited. It is about the Marlins and their seven-year record vis-à-vis their divisional rivals in New York, not to mention the Braves and the fact that Florida has finished ahead of Atlanta in each of the past two seasons.

 

This is about owner Jeffrey Loria's figuring out how to cope with a small market and -- until the past few months -- no hope of a real ballpark. He tied up one of the game's best general managers, Admin Beinfest, and his baseball board of directors -- Mike Hill, Dan Jennings, Jim Fleming, Stan Meek et al -- to long-term contracts and enabled them to use scouting and development to try to consistently compete with big-market teams. The Marlins have had the lowest payroll in the National League in each of the past four years; the $104 million for those four years was $45 million less than the Mets' 2009 payroll.

 

And after Chris Coghlan won the 2009 NL Rookie of the Year, and as anyone who follows Florida starts thinking about how Logan Morrison and Mike Stanton could compete for the award the next couple of seasons, take a look at the Marlins' relative seven-year success:

 

Link (Insider access required)

 

Another good entry by the reliable Gammons. At least we have a HOF sportswriter on our side.

Marlins aren't your typical small-market team

 

Peter Gammons- ESPN.com

 

This is not about the Mets, who endured what seemed like three years' worth of injuries in 2009, and whose farm system is better than credited. It is about the Marlins and their seven-year record vis-à-vis their divisional rivals in New York, not to mention the Braves and the fact that Florida has finished ahead of Atlanta in each of the past two seasons.

 

This is about owner Jeffrey Loria's figuring out how to cope with a small market and -- until the past few months -- no hope of a real ballpark. He tied up one of the game's best general managers, Admin Beinfest, and his baseball board of directors -- Mike Hill, Dan Jennings, Jim Fleming, Stan Meek et al -- to long-term contracts and enabled them to use scouting and development to try to consistently compete with big-market teams. The Marlins have had the lowest payroll in the National League in each of the past four years; the $104 million for those four years was $45 million less than the Mets' 2009 payroll.

 

And after Chris Coghlan won the 2009 NL Rookie of the Year, and as anyone who follows Florida starts thinking about how Logan Morrison and Mike Stanton could compete for the award the next couple of seasons, take a look at the Marlins' relative seven-year success:

 

Link (Insider access required)

 

Another good entry by the reliable Gammons. At least we have a HOF sportswriter on our side.

 

I've always marveled at Peter's support of the Fish, which is especially incredible considering the NE bias in Bristol. It's goodto have a chearleader at the letters.

Marlins aren't your typical small-market team

 

Peter Gammons- ESPN.com

 

This is not about the Mets, who endured what seemed like three years' worth of injuries in 2009, and whose farm system is better than credited. It is about the Marlins and their seven-year record vis-à-vis their divisional rivals in New York, not to mention the Braves and the fact that Florida has finished ahead of Atlanta in each of the past two seasons.

 

This is about owner Jeffrey Loria's figuring out how to cope with a small market and -- until the past few months -- no hope of a real ballpark. He tied up one of the game's best general managers, Admin Beinfest, and his baseball board of directors -- Mike Hill, Dan Jennings, Jim Fleming, Stan Meek et al -- to long-term contracts and enabled them to use scouting and development to try to consistently compete with big-market teams. The Marlins have had the lowest payroll in the National League in each of the past four years; the $104 million for those four years was $45 million less than the Mets' 2009 payroll.

 

And after Chris Coghlan won the 2009 NL Rookie of the Year, and as anyone who follows Florida starts thinking about how Logan Morrison and Mike Stanton could compete for the award the next couple of seasons, take a look at the Marlins' relative seven-year success:

 

Link (Insider access required)

 

Another good entry by the reliable Gammons. At least we have a HOF sportswriter on our side.

 

I've always marveled at Peter's support of the Fish, which is especially incredible considering the NE bias in Bristol. It's goodto have a chearleader at the letters.

Marlins aren't your typical small-market team

 

Peter Gammons- ESPN.com

 

This is not about the Mets, who endured what seemed like three years' worth of injuries in 2009, and whose farm system is better than credited. It is about the Marlins and their seven-year record vis-à-vis their divisional rivals in New York, not to mention the Braves and the fact that Florida has finished ahead of Atlanta in each of the past two seasons.

 

This is about owner Jeffrey Loria's figuring out how to cope with a small market and -- until the past few months -- no hope of a real ballpark. He tied up one of the game's best general managers, Admin Beinfest, and his baseball board of directors -- Mike Hill, Dan Jennings, Jim Fleming, Stan Meek et al -- to long-term contracts and enabled them to use scouting and development to try to consistently compete with big-market teams. The Marlins have had the lowest payroll in the National League in each of the past four years; the $104 million for those four years was $45 million less than the Mets' 2009 payroll.

 

And after Chris Coghlan won the 2009 NL Rookie of the Year, and as anyone who follows Florida starts thinking about how Logan Morrison and Mike Stanton could compete for the award the next couple of seasons, take a look at the Marlins' relative seven-year success:

 

Link (Insider access required)

 

Another good entry by the reliable Gammons. At least we have a HOF sportswriter on our side.

 

I've always marveled at Peter's support of the Fish, which is especially incredible considering the NE bias in Bristol. It's goodto have a chearleader at the letters.

Herbstreet is to Canes as Gammons is to Marlins

Marlins aren't your typical small-market team

 

Peter Gammons- ESPN.com

 

This is not about the Mets, who endured what seemed like three years' worth of injuries in 2009, and whose farm system is better than credited. It is about the Marlins and their seven-year record vis-à-vis their divisional rivals in New York, not to mention the Braves and the fact that Florida has finished ahead of Atlanta in each of the past two seasons.

 

This is about owner Jeffrey Loria's figuring out how to cope with a small market and -- until the past few months -- no hope of a real ballpark. He tied up one of the game's best general managers, Admin Beinfest, and his baseball board of directors -- Mike Hill, Dan Jennings, Jim Fleming, Stan Meek et al -- to long-term contracts and enabled them to use scouting and development to try to consistently compete with big-market teams. The Marlins have had the lowest payroll in the National League in each of the past four years; the $104 million for those four years was $45 million less than the Mets' 2009 payroll.

 

And after Chris Coghlan won the 2009 NL Rookie of the Year, and as anyone who follows Florida starts thinking about how Logan Morrison and Mike Stanton could compete for the award the next couple of seasons, take a look at the Marlins' relative seven-year success:

 

Link (Insider access required)

 

Another good entry by the reliable Gammons. At least we have a HOF sportswriter on our side.

 

I've always marveled at Peter's support of the Fish, which is especially incredible considering the NE bias in Bristol. It's goodto have a chearleader at the letters.

Herbstreet is to Canes as Gammons is to Marlins

I've always marveled at Peter's support of the Fish, which is especially incredible considering the NE bias in Bristol. It's good to have a chearleader at the letters.

 

 

It's a relatively recent phenomenom because not too many years ago he was sterotypically a Marlins basher. I think his time with Boog and later Dan LeBatard forced him to rethink his position regarding the franchise and to some extent you have the fans/callers of South Florida to thank for that who called in to correct some misconception Gammons had (for years he had that same superficial, parrot whatever every other writer was saying about the team mentality) or Boog pointing out what was flawed in his thinking. Gammons in 2002 and 2003 (until well into August when it became obvious this team was going to contend) was regularly positioning the Marlins as America's farm team to the rest of baseball. He guaranteed for example at mid-season Lowell would be traded two years running only to see those trades never happen.

 

Don't get me wrong I like and respect Gammons on a number of levels both professional and the things he's gone through in his personal life, and he is one of the very best if not the best baseball writer we have, but his transformation to Marlns fan is relatively recent.

I've always marveled at Peter's support of the Fish, which is especially incredible considering the NE bias in Bristol. It's good to have a chearleader at the letters.

 

 

It's a relatively recent phenomenom because not too many years ago he was sterotypically a Marlins basher. I think his time with Boog and later Dan LeBatard forced him to rethink his position regarding the franchise and to some extent you have the fans/callers of South Florida to thank for that who called in to correct some misconception Gammons had (for years he had that same superficial, parrot whatever every other writer was saying about the team mentality) or Boog pointing out what was flawed in his thinking. Gammons in 2002 and 2003 (until well into August when it became obvious this team was going to contend) was regularly positioning the Marlins as America's farm team to the rest of baseball. He guaranteed for example at mid-season Lowell would be traded two years running only to see those trades never happen.

 

Don't get me wrong I like and respect Gammons on a number of levels both professional and the things he's gone through in his personal life, and he is one of the very best if not the best baseball writer we have, but his transformation to Marlns fan is relatively recent.

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