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Baseball's Postseason Bubble Plan Discussion


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I made this thread since it's going to get lost/locked in the game thread.

 

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I don't understand why a bubble now - I understand they don't want delays, but if that's the case, why have wild card games at home parks?

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This would bother me more if fans were able to attend. If I can't buy a ticket to it and actual Marlins fans can't fill the stands why does it matter where the game is played? Of course it would be better if it was their true home parks but considering the circumstances this isn't as troubling as one would think.

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MLB/MLBPA have agreed on the bubble plan - here are the details we know so far until the official announcement:

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/09/mlb-postseason-bubble-playoffs.html

 

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9:30am: Major League Baseball and the MLB Players Association are in agreement on a plan for the 2020 postseason that includes a “bubble” format hosted at neutral sites for the Division Series, League Championship Series and World Series, reports Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (via Twitter). A formal announcement is expected today.

Details of the arrangement remain sparse, although at last check, the plan was to host the ALDS and ALCS at National League stadiums in southern California (Dodger Stadium and San Diego’s Petco Park). The NLDS and NLCS, in turn, would be hosted at a pair of American League sites: the Rangers’ Globe Life Field and the Astros’ Minute Maid Park. The World Series would be staged at Globe Life Field as well. The first round of play would be hosted at the home park of the matchup’s higher seed, Joel Sherman of the New York Post tweets.

Those points seemed largely agreed upon, but there were other details to be hammered out. Notably, players pushed back against the quarantine measures that were to be put in place for their family members before being permitted to join them in the bubble. It also appears that there’s been some discussion of allowing fans in a limited capacity, as commissioner Rob Manfred suggested last night in an online event with Hofstra University’s business school (link via Evan Drellich of The Athletic). Whether that possibility is woven into the agreement is not yet clear.

“I’m hopeful that the World Series and the LCS we will have limited fan capacity,” Manfred said in that appearance. “…Obviously it’ll be limited numbers, socially distanced, protection provided for the fans in terms of temperature checks and the like. Kind of the pods like you saw in some of the NFL games. We’ll probably use that same theory.”

Referring to anything as a “bubble” when family members and fans — even in limited quantities — are permitted to enter the equation seems like a reach, but it’s notable that it’s even under discussion. Limited fan attendance would complicate health and safety protocols but would also soften the financial blow that clubs are facing without gate revenue in 2020. It could also serve as somewhat of a litmus test in advance of the 2021 season, which Manfred acknowledged is not a given to return to normalcy from day one:

“I think the trick in terms of what’s going to happen next year, it’s dependent on the virus,” said Manfred. “The virus controls and it’s ‘do you have a vaccine? Are we still seeing spikes?’ That’s going to drive what local governments are going to allow us to do.”

9:37am: Sherman adds that the previously reported quarantine measures leading up to the playoffs will remain in place for players. All members of contending clubs, even those playing at home, will quarantine in hotels for seven days prior to the first round of postseason play. They’ll be tested daily during that period. If a team is eliminated from postseason contention in that seven-day span, of course, those players can leave the hotels early.

9:49am: Sherman further reports that teams will continue operating their alternate training sites during the pre-postseason quarantine, but transfers between the alternate site and big league roster won’t be permitted. As such, all players on the IL and 40-man roster are likely to join in that quarantine setting to allow clubs to continue to make roster moves.

That’s hardly an ideal setup, as those players seem unlikely to be able to participate in simulated games and other standard workouts, but the league is clearly exercising extra caution in order to ensure the postseason is able to take place.

10:25am: Players’ families will have the option of quarantining at the hotel with them in the seven days prior to the postseason, Rosenthal tweets. They’d then be able to join the bubbles for the duration of the playoffs.

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I don't understand the possibility of fans at all, aside from the financial aspect.  Doesn't that completely defeat the point of the bubble concept?

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7 minutes ago, rmc523 said:

I don't understand the possibility of fans at all, aside from the financial aspect.  Doesn't that completely defeat the point of the bubble concept?

If you have a strict limit to the number of fans in attendance you can make 100% sure that they will be nowhere near the players.

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33 minutes ago, SilverBullet said:

If you have a strict limit to the number of fans in attendance you can make 100% sure that they will be nowhere near the players.

Couldn't that same argument be said of fans in the stands at regular games, then?

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1 hour ago, SilverBullet said:

Yea true.

Though I do understand the limitations with local governments that create additional road blocks for regular games - perhaps the sites MLB chose are willing to allow fans - easier to approve a few locations vs. all 30.

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