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Brunell to Skins Almost done deal

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I wanted us to get Brunell, so that he could fill in until a younger franchise QB could fit in. For the next couple of years, we need to try and go for that Super Bowl win. If we pull back into a rebuilding mode now, we'll squander the careers of guys like Jason Taylor, Zach Thomas, etc., who don't have that many years left.

I agree we need to win now before our defense gets old. Which could come in less than 2 years. Burnell would have been a great signee at QB.

 

Also I think its stupid for the Redskins because Ramsey can be more than a average QB if he had a better line and a running game to help take pressure off him. If I were the Redskins I'd get a RB first before a QB. Dude where is the weakness on the offensive line? Only position that may need an upgrade is Center. It's pretty hard to protect the QB when the D knows your going to throw the damn football each time out. Samuels and Jansen are two book end Tackles. There strengths though are suited for running the football. Thomas is on of the best guards in the NFL. Dockery was only a rookie this past year and really came on strong towards the end of the season. Moore (Center) sucks though. I know they got some big names on there but they didnt play well.

 

But thats why I made the point that they need a RB and not a new QB, to take pressure of the QB and keep opposing defenses honest.

 

Question for Redskin fans: Is Ramsey hated up in Washington like Jay Fielder is hated down in Miami?

damn you dolphin fans really are fairweather fans.....

 

 

i recall fiedler getting one hell of an ovation when he came in and saved the day during that sunday night game....

 

 

do you people turn that fast on players?

Sadly.. they do.

 

They forget the many games Fielder won with his arm and legs, they just remeber the ones he loses.

 

At least most Dolphin fans.

I personally like fiedler. I know he is not the best QB in the league but hes 28-13 as a starter the last 3 years and the rest of the dolphins QBs have been 1-5.

 

Also not many people can do what fiedler does with below par wide receivers and a terrible offensive line.

I personally like fiedler. I know he is not the best QB in the league but hes 28-13 as a starter the last 3 years and the rest of the dolphins QBs have been 1-5.

 

Also not many people can do what fiedler does with below par wide receivers and a terrible offensive line.

Correcto Mundo..

 

I think since many Dolphin fans were spoiled with the great Marino. Fans expect the same thing from whoever is there QB now. I only saw the latter part of Marino's career so I was never spoiled like some other Dolphin fans but they need to learn to take their shades off and see what going around in the league before making assumptions.

didnt the dolphins put up a huge day in teh air against the cowboys on thanksgiving?

thanks to that game, we're the #26 ranked passing offense in the nfl.

 

i don't even want to calculate how much worse we'd be if it weren't for that fluke of a game.

didnt the dolphins put up a huge day in teh air against the cowboys on thanksgiving?

thanks to that game, we're the #26 ranked passing offense in the nfl.

 

i don't even want to calculate how much worse we'd be if it weren't for that fluke of a game. Or maybe it was because Fielder actually had time to throw.

 

Just a thought..

I think since many Dolphin fans were spoiled with the great Marino. Fans expect the same thing from whoever is there QB now. I only saw the latter part of Marino's career so I was never spoiled like some other Dolphin fans but they need to learn to take their shades off and see what going around in the league before making assumptions.

dude, it's not too much to ask for a quarterback who can throw more TDs than INTs, who can have a QB rating higher than 23 in the 4th quarter, and who can complete more than 12 throws longer than 20 yards in the entire season.

 

it's not about wanting a star. jay fielder is a s***ty quarterback who isn't good enough to start on most nfl teams. that's why people b***h.

didnt the dolphins put up a huge day in teh air against the cowboys on thanksgiving?

thanks to that game, we're the #26 ranked passing offense in the nfl.

 

i don't even want to calculate how much worse we'd be if it weren't for that fluke of a game. Or maybe it was because Fielder actually had time to throw.

 

Just a thought.. he had plenty of time the previous 3 seasons and we've ALWAYS been at the bottom of the league in passing offense.

 

the line didn't start sucking until this season.

 

the line was great the previous season (remember ricky and his 5.0 yards per carry?).

didnt the dolphins put up a huge day in teh air against the cowboys on thanksgiving?

thanks to that game, we're the #26 ranked passing offense in the nfl.

 

i don't even want to calculate how much worse we'd be if it weren't for that fluke of a game. Or maybe it was because Fielder actually had time to throw.

 

Just a thought.. he had plenty of time the previous 3 seasons and we've ALWAYS been at the bottom of the league in passing offense.

 

the line didn't start sucking until this season.

 

the line was great the previous season (remember ricky and his 5.0 yards per carry?). and thats why fiedler had an 85.2 passer rating and completed 61 percent of his passes in 2002.

And Brunell has only surpassed the 85.2 rating twice in his career and this was with weapons such as fred taylor, jimmy smith, and keenan mccardell. Also he has had above 61 percent completion percentage once in his career.

 

So stop whining!!!

I think since many Dolphin fans were spoiled with the great Marino. Fans expect the same thing from whoever is there QB now. I only saw the latter part of Marino's career so I was never spoiled like some other Dolphin fans but they need to learn to take their shades off and see what going around in the league before making assumptions.

dude, it's not too much to ask for a quarterback who can throw more TDs than INTs, who can have a QB rating higher than 23 in the 4th quarter, and who can complete more than 12 throws longer than 20 yards in the entire season.

 

it's not about wanting a star. jay fielder is a s***ty quarterback who isn't good enough to start on most nfl teams. that's why people b***h. If I recall Fielder is one of top QB's in 4th Quarter comebacks.

And Brunell has only surpassed the 85.2 rating twice in his career and this was with weapons such as fred taylor, jimmy smith, and keenan mccardell. Also he has had above 61 percent completion percentage once in his career.

 

So stop whining!!!

that was the best year of fiedler's career and we were still in the bottom in terms of passing offense.

 

he couldn't complete throws over 20 yards then and he can't do it now.

And Brunell has only surpassed the 85.2 rating twice in his career and this was with weapons such as fred taylor, jimmy smith, and keenan mccardell. Also he has had above 61 percent completion percentage once in his career.

 

So stop whining!!!

that was the best year of fiedler's career and we were still in the bottom in terms of passing offense.

 

he couldn't complete throws over 20 yards then and he can't do it now. Well he did against the Cowboys. It doesnt help that he has a crappy recieving corp, after Chambers and Randy he has no one and towards the end of the year Randy was staying in more on blocking assignments because of our offensive line struggles.

 

I'm not saying hes a great QB and I would rather have Brunell than him but right now there is no one else out there and we can win with him if we improve other aspects of the game.

If I recall Fielder is one of top QB's in 4th Quarter comebacks.

 

 -- PASSING ---- RUSHING --

 

 

  CMP

ATT

YDS

CMP%

YPA

LNG

TD

INT

SACK

RAT

ATT

YDS

AVG

LNG

TD

1ST QTR 46

79

542

58.2

6.86

59

1

3

3

67.6

8

34

4.3

9

3

2ND QTR 52

84

606

61.9

7.21

57

8

2

4

105.6

10

33

3.3

14

0

3RD QTR 45

71

625

63.4

8.80

35

1

0

7

96.3

1

1

1.0

1

0

4TH QTR 34

75

317

45.3

4.23

35

1

7

5

23.0

15

20

1.3

8

0

OVERTIME 2

5

48

40.0

9.60

31

0

1

0

35.8

0

0

0.0

0

0

 

 

not exactly the guy i'd want to trust with the game on the line. that redskins game is the only time i can recall him being good in the 4th quarter this season.

If I recall Fielder is one of top QB's in 4th Quarter comebacks.

 

 -- PASSING ---- RUSHING --

 

 

  CMP

ATT

YDS

CMP%

YPA

LNG

TD

INT

SACK

RAT

ATT

YDS

AVG

LNG

TD

1ST QTR 46

79

542

58.2

6.86

59

1

3

3

67.6

8

34

4.3

9

3

2ND QTR 52

84

606

61.9

7.21

57

8

2

4

105.6

10

33

3.3

14

0

3RD QTR 45

71

625

63.4

8.80

35

1

0

7

96.3

1

1

1.0

1

0

4TH QTR 34

75

317

45.3

4.23

35

1

7

5

23.0

15

20

1.3

8

0

OVERTIME 2

5

48

40.0

9.60

31

0

1

0

35.8

0

0

0.0

0

0

 

 

not exactly the guy i'd want to trust with the game on the line. that redskins game is the only time i can recall him being good in the 4th quarter this season. Well I was talking about in his career with the Dolphins this season because I know he didnt do to well last year in the 4th quarter.

And Brunell has only surpassed the 85.2 rating twice in his career and this was with weapons such as fred taylor, jimmy smith, and keenan mccardell. Also he has had above 61 percent completion percentage once in his career.

 

So stop whining!!!

that was the best year of fiedler's career and we were still in the bottom in terms of passing offense.

 

he couldn't complete throws over 20 yards then and he can't do it now. Well that was the year that ricky ran for 5.0 yards. That just proves that he can succeed with a decent offensive line.

 

Also Brunell in his career avg 7.02 YPA

Fiedler in his career avg 6.98 YPA

 

Also Brunell 60.3 career completion percentage

Fiedler 59.4 career completion percentage

 

Pretty close huh and Fiedler has half the weapons which Brunell has.

If I recall Fielder is one of top QB's in 4th Quarter comebacks.

 

 -- PASSING ---- RUSHING --

 

 

  CMP

ATT

YDS

CMP%

YPA

LNG

TD

INT

SACK

RAT

ATT

YDS

AVG

LNG

TD

1ST QTR 46

79

542

58.2

6.86

59

1

3

3

67.6

8

34

4.3

9

3

2ND QTR 52

84

606

61.9

7.21

57

8

2

4

105.6

10

33

3.3

14

0

3RD QTR 45

71

625

63.4

8.80

35

1

0

7

96.3

1

1

1.0

1

0

4TH QTR 34

75

317

45.3

4.23

35

1

7

5

23.0

15

20

1.3

8

0

OVERTIME 2

5

48

40.0

9.60

31

0

1

0

35.8

0

0

0.0

0

0

 

 

not exactly the guy i'd want to trust with the game on the line. that redskins game is the only time i can recall him being good in the 4th quarter this season. Well I was talking about in his career with the Dolphins this season because I know he didnt do to well last year in the 4th quarter.

 

okay, let's look at the previous year (the best season of his career), courtesy of nfl.com:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jay Fiedler #9

 

 

 

Height:  6-2

Weight:  225

Born:  12/29/1971

College:  Dartmouth

NFL Experience:  8

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2002 PASSING SPLITS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

CAT

G

Att

Comp

Pct

Yds

YPA

Lg

TD

Int

1st

1rst %

20+

Sac

Rate

 

 

 

AHEAD BY 1-TO-8 POINTS0734257.54045.5334412457.13685.6

 

 

 

AHEAD BY 9-TO-16 POINTS0684160.35207.6552412868.37197.7

 

 

 

AHEAD01599257.910216.4252935863.012788.1

 

 

 

BEHIND BY 9-TO-16 POINTS0493265.33146.4126131650.02464.5

 

 

 

BEHIND BY 1-TO-8 POINTS0261869.22128.1538121055.64074.5

 

 

 

BEHIND0915964.85806.3738263050.86462.5

 

 

 

CAT

G

Att

Comp

Pct

Yds

YPA

Lg

TD

Int

1st

1rst %

20+

Sac

Rate

 

 

 

1ST QUARTER0644265.65518.6159502969.074118.7

 

 

 

2ND QUARTER01006060.07017.0152533863.310185.5

 

 

 

3RD QUARTER0573663.24107.1938322158.35487.6

 

 

 

4TH QUARTER0714157.73625.1024142048.83452.7

 

 

 

FOURTH QUARTER WITHIN 70533056.62624.9422141550.02344.7

 

 

 

OVERTIME000---0---0000---00---

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

not too good when it counts, eh?

THere is only one thing you need to know about Fiedler and that is that he wins.

 

Fiedler finds a way to win.

 

Fiedler also won without Ricky. He won with Lamar Smith rushing for 3.1 yards a carry. Tell me a QB that can win with that.

THere is only one thing you need to know about Fiedler and that is that he wins.

 

Fiedler finds a way to win.

 

Fiedler also won without Ricky. He won with Lamar Smith rushing for 3.1 yards a carry. Tell me a QB that can win with that.

it's the defense.

 

the dolphins won games DESPITE being near the bottom of the league in scoring offensive points and passing yards.

 

how, you ask? because we led the league in allowing the fewest points and we led the league in scoring defensive touchdowns and points off of turnovers.

 

our defense was the surrogate for having an offense.

THere is only one thing you need to know about Fiedler and that is that he wins.

 

Fiedler finds a way to win.

 

Fiedler also won without Ricky. He won with Lamar Smith rushing for 3.1 yards a carry. Tell me a QB that can win with that.

it's the defense.

 

the dolphins won games DESPITE being near the bottom of the league in scoring offensive points and passing yards.

 

how, you ask? because we led the league in allowing the fewest points and we led the league in scoring defensive touchdowns and points off of turnovers.

 

our defense was the surrogate for having an offense. The Fins were the 11th ranked scoring defense that year.

 

And they were the 8th best scoring offense that year.

The Fins were the 11th ranked scoring defense that year.

 

And they were the 8th best scoring offense that year.

lol, which year?

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